That Witch Doesn’t Kill You returns for season three with a follow up to our Ghosts episode. This week Jacob and Reese explore skepticism, skinamarink, and other stories of super spooky specters.
Welcome to “That Which Doesn’t Kill You,” the podcast where Reese and I explore pop culture, dreadful things, and more. In our latest episode, we delve into the exciting world of ghosts, experimental horror, and queer creators in the horror genre.
During our recent Airbnb trip to Charlottesville, Reese and I watched “Skinamarink,” a 2022 Canadian experimental horror film that we couldn’t wait to discuss. The film’s atmospheric vibe and portrayal of childhood fears captivated us, making it a must-watch for those interested in unique cinematic experiences.
Our conversation also led us to explore the modern interpretation of ghosts. Many people believe that ghosts might be energy capable of manipulating technology, and we dug into this concept, sharing our thoughts and skepticism. Whether you’re a believer or just curious about the supernatural, our insights on ghosts and modern tools like EMF detectors are sure to intrigue you.
An important highlight of our episode is the celebration of queer creators in the horror genre. Our own experiences led to a thoughtful discussion on the subject, which we think resonates with many in our community.
Join Reese and me for a lively conversation filled with laughter, insights, and even an appearance by Mabel, our podcast dog. Listen to our episode on ghosts and experimental horror today, and don’t forget to follow us on Instagram to share your thoughts. If you’re interested in pop culture, queer topics in horror, and thoughtful discussions, “That Which Doesn’t Kill You” is the podcast for you.
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| 00:00,000 | 00:17,000 | [Music] |
| 00:17,000 | 00:22,000 | I’m so excited for us. Mostly for me and a little bit for Mabel. |
| 00:22,000 | 00:24,000 | [Laughter] |
| 00:24,000 | 00:26,000 | You have no thoughts on me. |
| 00:26,000 | 00:28,000 | Who are you? |
| 00:28,000 | 00:30,300 | (sighs) |
| 00:30,300 | 00:31,140 | – Hi. |
| 00:31,140 | 00:31,980 | – Hi. |
| 00:31,980 | 00:35,720 | And hello to all of you. |
| 00:35,720 | 00:38,920 | Can’t believe we’re finally doing it again. |
| 00:38,920 | 00:41,440 | – Did you start? |
| 00:41,440 | 00:44,280 | – No, I’m just making words now. |
| 00:44,280 | 00:46,120 | Mabel, I really hope your little licking |
| 00:46,120 | 00:49,640 | doesn’t show up in the audio ’cause gross. |
| 00:49,640 | 00:52,880 | – We can only have one wet mouth person here |
| 00:52,880 | 00:54,240 | and that’s gonna be me. |
| 00:54,240 | 00:55,080 | – Mm-hmm. |
| 00:56,520 | 00:58,780 | (laughing) |
| 00:58,780 | 01:01,980 | – No, you’re so good Mabel, no. |
| 01:01,980 | 01:05,080 | Yeah, you just lay there. |
| 01:05,080 | 01:06,760 | You just look comfy, okay? |
| 01:06,760 | 01:10,840 | Hi friends, I’m Jacob and that’s Reese |
| 01:10,840 | 01:13,440 | and this is That Which Doesn’t Kill You, |
| 01:13,440 | 01:15,880 | podcast where we speak about pop culture, dreadful things |
| 01:15,880 | 01:18,640 | and end each episode by setting some intentions |
| 01:18,640 | 01:20,240 | for the following week. |
| 01:20,240 | 01:23,940 | – Today we’re talking about ghosts. |
| 01:23,940 | 01:26,100 | If you have any questions, comments or random thoughts |
| 01:26,100 | 01:28,640 | you’d like to start a future episode with, |
| 01:28,640 | 01:31,180 | send us a DM on Instagram on our new handle, |
| 01:31,180 | 01:32,560 | Argonauts.tube. |
| 01:32,560 | 01:35,460 | What should we talk about first? |
| 01:35,460 | 01:37,600 | – Skin on my rink! |
| 01:37,600 | 01:38,520 | – Loved it. |
| 01:38,520 | 01:42,680 | – She’s skinning my rink till my outwaters, am I right? |
| 01:42,680 | 01:44,160 | – I wanna hate you. |
| 01:44,160 | 01:45,380 | – That’s so mean. |
| 01:45,380 | 01:46,760 | (laughing) |
| 01:46,760 | 01:50,440 | Anyway, celebrate queer people making horror movies. |
| 01:50,440 | 01:51,920 | – Yes, yes. |
| 01:51,920 | 01:55,560 | – The rightful heirs to the genre. |
| 01:55,560 | 01:57,460 | – We know real horror. |
| 01:57,460 | 01:58,780 | – Honestly. |
| 01:58,780 | 02:02,580 | You’ve ever been in Kansas and queer at the same time? |
| 02:02,580 | 02:03,540 | You know. |
| 02:03,540 | 02:06,460 | – Have you been anywhere? |
| 02:06,460 | 02:07,940 | – Ever. |
| 02:07,940 | 02:09,620 | – And queer? |
| 02:09,620 | 02:10,460 | – Terrifying. |
| 02:10,460 | 02:12,820 | (laughing) |
| 02:12,820 | 02:16,300 | Guess, I guess like straight women are also, |
| 02:16,300 | 02:18,380 | they have some things to be scared about. |
| 02:18,380 | 02:19,220 | – Yeah. |
| 02:19,220 | 02:20,060 | – Also as well. |
| 02:20,060 | 02:22,820 | But more importantly. |
| 02:22,820 | 02:23,660 | – Yes. |
| 02:24,540 | 02:26,800 | (laughing) |
| 02:26,800 | 02:31,800 | – We watched it when we were at our Airbnb trip |
| 02:31,800 | 02:35,700 | to Charlottesville. |
| 02:35,700 | 02:37,200 | – Yes, we were in Charlottesville |
| 02:37,200 | 02:38,220 | and they didn’t have a TV, |
| 02:38,220 | 02:40,220 | so we were watching it on my computer. |
| 02:40,220 | 02:41,700 | – It was very vibes. |
| 02:41,700 | 02:46,060 | – Yes, it definitely added to the feeling of being like, |
| 02:46,060 | 02:48,300 | oh, look at this thing we just discovered |
| 02:48,300 | 02:50,940 | and now we’re watching it and it’s spooky. |
| 02:50,940 | 02:53,340 | Do you wanna give a general overview |
| 02:53,340 | 02:56,540 | kind of for those who haven’t seen it. |
| 02:56,540 | 02:57,380 | – Please do. |
| 02:57,380 | 02:58,340 | – Please do. |
| 02:58,340 | 03:01,340 | There’s not a lot of that can really be spoilery. |
| 03:01,340 | 03:04,160 | So don’t think that I have to like spoil you. |
| 03:04,160 | 03:07,900 | It’s a very like atmospheric kind of movie. |
| 03:07,900 | 03:09,620 | Like it’s more about how it makes you feel |
| 03:09,620 | 03:10,620 | than what it shows you. |
| 03:10,620 | 03:13,660 | – It’s one of those, I’d have to say like, |
| 03:13,660 | 03:15,660 | there’s not really like a plot |
| 03:15,660 | 03:17,180 | or something you’re going with. |
| 03:17,180 | 03:19,100 | Like you said, it’s like a vibe. |
| 03:19,100 | 03:19,940 | – Yeah. |
| 03:22,440 | 03:23,800 | – And maybe this sounds a bit dramatic, |
| 03:23,800 | 03:25,400 | but it’s almost an experience. |
| 03:25,400 | 03:27,200 | – Ooh, I like that. |
| 03:27,200 | 03:28,400 | Yes, come on, experience. |
| 03:28,400 | 03:29,480 | – Experience. |
| 03:29,480 | 03:33,920 | So according to the Skinny Meringue Wikipedia, |
| 03:33,920 | 03:39,240 | it’s a 2022 Canadian experimental horror film |
| 03:39,240 | 03:41,960 | written and directed by Kyle Edward Ball, |
| 03:41,960 | 03:43,160 | follow on Twitter, |
| 03:43,160 | 03:47,920 | and it’s featured directorial debut. |
| 03:47,920 | 03:50,480 | The film follows two children who wake up during the night |
| 03:50,480 | 03:52,860 | to discover that they cannot find their father |
| 03:52,860 | 03:54,900 | and that the windows, doors, and other objects |
| 03:54,900 | 03:56,500 | in their house are disappearing. |
| 03:56,500 | 03:57,680 | And then we go from there. |
| 03:57,680 | 03:58,520 | – Yeah. |
| 03:58,520 | 04:02,460 | A lot of like, most of the movie, |
| 04:02,460 | 04:04,420 | this is gonna make people who do not care |
| 04:04,420 | 04:08,380 | about experimental horror just like go dead in the eyes. |
| 04:08,380 | 04:10,020 | – Just dead, dead brain. |
| 04:10,020 | 04:14,900 | – Most of the movie is literally just noisy nighttime videos |
| 04:14,900 | 04:17,220 | of like weird angles of the house. |
| 04:17,220 | 04:20,400 | Like it’s not like you’re like watching |
| 04:20,400 | 04:21,740 | somebody have a discussion. |
| 04:21,740 | 04:23,140 | It’s not that kind of movie. |
| 04:23,140 | 04:28,220 | – Like even the dialogue that was in the movie, |
| 04:28,220 | 04:32,300 | like there had to be, or there were subtitles. |
| 04:32,300 | 04:33,940 | ‘Cause it was just like that quiet. |
| 04:33,940 | 04:37,780 | – Yeah, so quiet and also like the audio itself |
| 04:37,780 | 04:42,500 | being like difficult to hear and kind of echoey |
| 04:42,500 | 04:44,300 | on kind of like tinny. |
| 04:44,300 | 04:47,020 | Like it very much gives you that feeling |
| 04:47,020 | 04:51,060 | of being nine years old and awake at night |
| 04:51,060 | 04:53,140 | when you’re not supposed to. – And terrified, yeah. |
| 04:53,140 | 04:56,460 | Well, and there’s probably, when we watched it, |
| 04:56,460 | 04:57,860 | I think, from what I remember, |
| 04:57,860 | 04:59,620 | ’cause this is a few weeks ago now, |
| 04:59,620 | 05:04,500 | there was like two instances |
| 05:04,500 | 05:06,900 | where they were kind of jump scary to me, |
| 05:06,900 | 05:10,560 | and one of them I already knew about, the phone. |
| 05:10,560 | 05:15,560 | – Yeah, and even that, I mean, it wasn’t too jumpy. |
| 05:15,740 | 05:16,820 | – I knew it was gonna happen |
| 05:16,820 | 05:18,900 | and it still kind of startled me to see it. |
| 05:18,900 | 05:21,940 | But I think I told you this like after the fact as well, |
| 05:21,940 | 05:24,780 | but my favorite part of watching that movie |
| 05:24,780 | 05:29,920 | or like a movie I know that creeps you out |
| 05:29,920 | 05:31,780 | is hearing you go, “Oh no.” |
| 05:31,780 | 05:34,180 | (both laughing) |
| 05:34,180 | 05:36,660 | Like, then I know that like, |
| 05:36,660 | 05:38,020 | there’s some good shit happening. |
| 05:38,020 | 05:41,220 | – I’m like, very little gets to me. |
| 05:41,220 | 05:43,500 | But some things will just kind of remind me |
| 05:43,500 | 05:45,740 | of my own experiences of childhood. |
| 05:45,740 | 05:49,500 | And also I don’t like, I think most people would agree, |
| 05:49,500 | 05:51,060 | they don’t like when spooky, |
| 05:51,060 | 05:53,060 | spooky-ooky things happen to children. |
| 05:53,060 | 05:53,900 | – Yeah. |
| 05:53,900 | 05:56,200 | – And especially when you can kind of tell |
| 05:56,200 | 05:58,180 | and what they’re insinuating. |
| 05:58,180 | 05:59,020 | – Yeah. |
| 05:59,020 | 06:02,260 | – And you think of, this movie is very metaphorical |
| 06:02,260 | 06:04,300 | and everyone has their own interpretation of– |
| 06:04,300 | 06:06,580 | – If you leave things to my imagination, |
| 06:06,580 | 06:09,100 | I will come up with all the fucked up shit myself. |
| 06:09,100 | 06:09,940 | – Exactly. |
| 06:09,940 | 06:10,780 | – And that’s what this gave you. |
| 06:10,780 | 06:11,620 | – Yes. |
| 06:11,620 | 06:16,620 | I feel like a lot of us have had some type of experience |
| 06:16,620 | 06:23,660 | where we’ve had nightmares as kids. |
| 06:23,660 | 06:26,860 | We’ve had things going on in the house |
| 06:26,860 | 06:29,660 | that were uncomfortable or scary. |
| 06:29,660 | 06:34,660 | And that really put that in front of everything |
| 06:34,660 | 06:37,380 | to be like, look at this thing |
| 06:37,380 | 06:40,300 | and be here with your thoughts. |
| 06:40,300 | 06:41,780 | – And that was creepy. |
| 06:41,780 | 06:42,820 | Yeah. |
| 06:42,820 | 06:47,820 | It made me uncomfortable, but in a thoughtful, good way, |
| 06:47,820 | 06:51,700 | that this is what I wanted from this piece of media. |
| 06:51,700 | 06:52,860 | I liked it. |
| 06:52,860 | 06:53,860 | -100% |
| 06:53,860 | 06:55,220 | So if you haven’t seen “Skin and Mink”, |
| 06:55,220 | 06:56,700 | go find it on Shutter. – Please do. |
| 06:56,700 | 06:58,560 | – It’s totally worth the watch |
| 06:58,560 | 07:01,900 | and support queer movie makers. |
| 07:01,900 | 07:03,380 | He did pretty much everything. |
| 07:03,380 | 07:08,380 | He shot it, directed, filmed, wrote, edited, audio. |
| 07:08,940 | 07:12,820 | Like he did everything on like a little computer |
| 07:12,820 | 07:14,820 | with an Adobe subscription. |
| 07:14,820 | 07:17,780 | So go support this man. |
| 07:17,780 | 07:21,200 | On that note, let’s take a quick break. |
| 07:21,200 | 07:23,060 | Make sure the audio sounds okay. |
| 07:23,060 | 07:25,420 | Since we don’t know what we’re doing anymore |
| 07:25,420 | 07:29,540 | after what, two, three months of not recording anything. |
| 07:29,540 | 07:31,460 | – Don’t tell me about time. |
| 07:31,460 | 07:32,420 | – Time’s not real. |
| 07:32,420 | 07:33,260 | – It’s not. |
| 07:33,260 | 07:34,080 | – We’ll be right back. |
| 07:34,080 | 07:34,920 | – Okay. – Or will we? |
| 07:34,920 | 07:37,500 | (upbeat music) |
| 07:37,500 | 07:40,080 | (upbeat music) |
| 07:40,080 | 07:51,100 | All right, today, we’re back. |
| 07:51,100 | 07:52,540 | We’re back in the habit. |
| 07:52,540 | 07:53,580 | – We’re back in it. |
| 07:53,580 | 07:58,580 | – Now that’s, that’s, that’s how we’ll be over. |
| 07:58,580 | 07:59,900 | – I like how your microphone looks like |
| 07:59,900 | 08:01,580 | it’s giving you a little kiss on the cheek. |
| 08:01,580 | 08:02,420 | – It is. |
| 08:02,420 | 08:03,260 | (laughing) |
| 08:03,260 | 08:04,700 | Hello, I’ve missed you. |
| 08:04,700 | 08:06,060 | – Just a little dainty. |
| 08:06,060 | 08:06,940 | (kissing) |
| 08:06,940 | 08:08,700 | I feel like if I make any movements, |
| 08:08,700 | 08:11,860 | Mabel is like, I have to get up and look at what’s happening. |
| 08:11,860 | 08:13,700 | – She is sniffing everything. |
| 08:13,700 | 08:17,460 | – She’s like, no, no audio mixing for you. |
| 08:17,460 | 08:18,300 | – Ew. |
| 08:18,300 | 08:21,900 | – Please lay down. |
| 08:21,900 | 08:22,720 | (Mabel laughs) |
| 08:22,720 | 08:23,780 | You’re doing so good. |
| 08:23,780 | 08:24,620 | – Okay. |
| 08:24,620 | 08:25,440 | – There we go. |
| 08:25,440 | 08:26,280 | – Podcast dog. |
| 08:26,280 | 08:27,120 | – Podcast dog. |
| 08:27,120 | 08:29,740 | All right, so today, obviously, |
| 08:29,740 | 08:32,420 | you clicked on this at some point, |
| 08:32,420 | 08:34,540 | or somehow it ended up in your feed. |
| 08:34,540 | 08:39,260 | you’re not listening to the beautiful tones of Reese and I, |
| 08:39,260 | 08:42,740 | you likely know that today’s episode is Ghosts, part two. |
| 08:42,740 | 08:44,060 | – Part two. |
| 08:44,060 | 08:46,500 | – This one, I think, |
| 08:46,500 | 08:47,820 | it definitely is a little bit different format |
| 08:47,820 | 08:48,660 | from the first one. |
| 08:48,660 | 08:50,020 | The first one we were kind of just going over |
| 08:50,020 | 08:53,020 | like A through B on a list of like– |
| 08:53,020 | 08:55,940 | – The concept of ghosts, yes. |
| 08:55,940 | 08:59,060 | – So today I wanted to kind of delve into |
| 09:00,200 | 09:04,920 | kind of like the modern take on ghosts |
| 09:04,920 | 09:08,440 | and how we interact with them |
| 09:08,440 | 09:11,440 | and how people believe we interact with them |
| 09:11,440 | 09:13,620 | in like today’s day and age. |
| 09:13,620 | 09:18,000 | So obviously it’s not a new phenomenon. |
| 09:18,000 | 09:19,880 | Like it’s, ghosts have been something people |
| 09:19,880 | 09:22,600 | have been talking about forever times. |
| 09:22,600 | 09:23,520 | – Forever. |
| 09:23,520 | 09:24,460 | – Forever times. |
| 09:24,460 | 09:30,040 | But a lot of people, they believe that |
| 09:30,040 | 09:33,640 | that ghosts are capable of manipulating technology |
| 09:33,640 | 09:37,120 | and showing up on temperature scans |
| 09:37,120 | 09:41,600 | and videos and photographs and et cetera. |
| 09:41,600 | 09:45,240 | – Well, a lot of people will believe ghosts, |
| 09:45,240 | 09:48,080 | believe in ghosts in a different way. |
| 09:48,080 | 09:52,480 | I personally believe ghosts are like an energy. |
| 09:52,480 | 09:54,000 | So it makes sense that they would be able |
| 09:54,000 | 09:56,840 | to manipulate other types of energy. |
| 09:56,840 | 09:58,720 | – Right, no, for sure. |
| 09:58,720 | 10:00,460 | I think it’s one of those things where like, |
| 10:00,460 | 10:02,160 | I mean, obviously we have witch in the title, |
| 10:02,160 | 10:05,280 | so we can’t, we’re not gonna be as skeptical |
| 10:05,280 | 10:09,860 | as your favorite NPR science podcast might be. |
| 10:09,860 | 10:11,160 | But– |
| 10:11,160 | 10:12,200 | – Mine personally? |
| 10:12,200 | 10:13,040 | – Yours personally. |
| 10:13,040 | 10:14,520 | I know you listen to all of them. |
| 10:14,520 | 10:17,200 | – I am so NPR. |
| 10:17,200 | 10:20,800 | – But I mean, we’ve spent a lot of time |
| 10:20,800 | 10:24,080 | watching like videos on YouTube or whatever. |
| 10:24,080 | 10:24,920 | – Yeah, experts. |
| 10:24,920 | 10:28,700 | – Most of the time, I will literally be like, fake. |
| 10:28,700 | 10:33,360 | No, absolutely not, not real, shenanigans. |
| 10:33,360 | 10:34,200 | – Yeah. |
| 10:34,200 | 10:36,360 | – Absolutely not. |
| 10:36,360 | 10:39,840 | – Do not, will not. |
| 10:39,840 | 10:41,840 | – But I don’t think that takes away from |
| 10:41,840 | 10:47,880 | my own personal beliefs and things beyond our understanding. |
| 10:47,880 | 10:48,720 | – Yeah. |
| 10:48,720 | 10:51,360 | – And we’ve talked before about how like a lot of things |
| 10:51,360 | 10:55,080 | that we do now would have seemed like magic |
| 10:55,080 | 10:56,600 | to people 500 years ago. |
| 10:56,600 | 11:01,880 | And a lot of the things that people believed 500 years ago, |
| 11:01,880 | 11:04,860 | especially in Eastern medicine, |
| 11:04,860 | 11:09,520 | have turned out to be somewhat useful in modern medicine |
| 11:09,520 | 11:14,240 | and in ways that we wouldn’t have known about |
| 11:14,240 | 11:18,080 | or even been able to process. |
| 11:18,080 | 11:19,920 | So maybe, like you said, |
| 11:19,920 | 11:23,240 | maybe the fact that they’re like an energy, |
| 11:23,240 | 11:26,560 | maybe that does kind of lend itself |
| 11:26,560 | 11:29,840 | to being able to capture them in certain ways |
| 11:29,840 | 11:34,480 | and with temperature or electricity, like whatever. |
| 11:34,480 | 11:36,240 | – Yeah, we’re getting the tools and things like that. |
| 11:36,240 | 11:39,760 | – Yeah, so speaking of those tools, |
| 11:39,760 | 11:42,100 | EMF detectors and EVP recorders, |
| 11:42,100 | 11:44,720 | I think the biggest drawback |
| 11:44,720 | 11:46,000 | and the thing that people always point out |
| 11:46,000 | 11:48,060 | with these kinds of tools is that |
| 11:48,060 | 11:52,860 | when you’re measuring radar sensing |
| 11:52,860 | 11:55,620 | and waves and microwaves and stuff, |
| 11:55,620 | 12:00,220 | all sorts of things can give off an electromagnetic field. |
| 12:00,220 | 12:03,620 | Like the wiring in your walls are gonna give that off. |
| 12:03,620 | 12:07,020 | So when you find super high readings of things |
| 12:07,020 | 12:10,380 | in old castles in England that don’t have any wires, |
| 12:10,380 | 12:12,340 | sure, that’s gonna be a little bit more |
| 12:12,340 | 12:17,380 | quote unquote evidential than if you do it here |
| 12:17,380 | 12:20,180 | where I have literally like six screens in his room. |
| 12:20,180 | 12:25,180 | – Yeah, like my rational brain cannot give a reason |
| 12:25,180 | 12:29,900 | to why that phenomena is happening at that point. |
| 12:29,900 | 12:33,620 | And that’s fascinating to me, I love that. |
| 12:33,620 | 12:36,480 | – So, Memrise, I sent you that thing about how, |
| 12:36,480 | 12:40,300 | so I have a, for those who don’t know, |
| 12:40,300 | 12:44,500 | I have a longstanding belief that chopsticks, |
| 12:44,500 | 12:46,700 | like people who use chopsticks are just using it |
| 12:46,700 | 12:48,200 | to like look cool. |
| 12:48,200 | 12:50,300 | Like, I’m like, use the tool |
| 12:50,300 | 12:52,700 | that makes the most amount of sense. |
| 12:52,700 | 12:54,700 | And you know what, sometimes it’s easier |
| 12:54,700 | 12:57,660 | to just cut things open, okay? |
| 12:57,660 | 13:00,660 | Sometimes you don’t need to use little wooden sticks |
| 13:00,660 | 13:01,820 | to pick things up. |
| 13:01,820 | 13:03,660 | – Just say you’re not good at it. |
| 13:03,660 | 13:05,300 | – I’m lovely at everything. |
| 13:05,300 | 13:07,860 | I’ve never failed once in my life. |
| 13:07,860 | 13:10,740 | But I very recently sent to you like, |
| 13:10,740 | 13:15,020 | hey, it turns out there is a scientific benefit. |
| 13:15,020 | 13:16,100 | – Reason. |
| 13:16,100 | 13:19,020 | The more you move that, the more it’s gonna mess up my audio. |
| 13:19,020 | 13:20,400 | – I’m so sorry. |
| 13:20,400 | 13:24,340 | I can’t find a comfortable place. |
| 13:24,340 | 13:25,180 | Okay, I’m fine. |
| 13:25,180 | 13:26,000 | – You don’t need to be comfortable, |
| 13:26,000 | 13:28,260 | you need to be able to be heard. |
| 13:28,260 | 13:29,900 | – Please don’t hurt me. |
| 13:29,900 | 13:30,880 | Okay, I’m good. |
| 13:30,880 | 13:33,820 | Everything’s fine. |
| 13:33,820 | 13:34,660 | – Just bullying you. |
| 13:34,660 | 13:36,460 | (both laughing) |
| 13:36,460 | 13:37,420 | – Everything’s fine. |
| 13:37,420 | 13:38,580 | – He likes it. |
| 13:38,580 | 13:39,940 | – What? |
| 13:39,940 | 13:41,140 | – Anyway, as I was saying. |
| 13:41,140 | 13:41,980 | – Send help. |
| 13:43,100 | 13:47,140 | – There’s like scientific effects |
| 13:47,140 | 13:52,140 | that the wood processes upon the salt ions in food |
| 13:52,140 | 13:57,340 | to make it taste different when you’re using chopsticks |
| 13:57,340 | 13:59,020 | versus not using chopsticks. |
| 13:59,020 | 14:00,380 | My point to that is– |
| 14:00,380 | 14:01,500 | – Ghost chopsticks. |
| 14:01,500 | 14:03,380 | – Ghost chopsticks, yes. |
| 14:03,380 | 14:08,140 | I’m sure there’s ways that a certain building material |
| 14:08,140 | 14:10,860 | might give off an electromagnetic field. |
| 14:10,860 | 14:12,060 | – Okay, I’m fine. |
| 14:12,060 | 14:13,580 | – I got the long way around. – I literally was not |
| 14:13,580 | 14:15,180 | following you up until you said that. |
| 14:15,180 | 14:17,140 | – I did have a mini rant in there. |
| 14:17,140 | 14:19,020 | – No, I’m following now, yes. |
| 14:19,020 | 14:21,420 | – You know, you can’t say for sure, |
| 14:21,420 | 14:27,540 | I mean, a house built of horse hair and mud |
| 14:27,540 | 14:30,060 | is probably going to conduct electricity differently |
| 14:30,060 | 14:34,120 | than one made of sheet metal or whatever. |
| 14:34,120 | 14:41,140 | So there is no current way to measure things |
| 14:41,140 | 14:44,480 | things and so people are skeptics are gonna say, |
| 14:44,480 | 14:46,420 | Well, then it’s not real. |
| 14:46,420 | 14:49,560 | But there were things that we didn’t believe were real. |
| 14:49,560 | 14:50,800 | There are a lot of flat earthers |
| 14:50,800 | 14:53,660 | who still don’t believe the planet is round |
| 14:53,660 | 14:56,400 | and we have the technology to prove that it is. |
| 14:56,400 | 14:59,840 | – Well, in these types of, these tools that |
| 14:59,840 | 15:06,040 | like paranormal investigators come up with or use |
| 15:06,040 | 15:10,440 | and even like were not originally used for paranormal |
| 15:10,440 | 15:13,920 | recordings but can be used now. |
| 15:13,920 | 15:18,440 | But things like, I forgot what it was called, |
| 15:18,440 | 15:20,040 | but it was like, have you seen those ones |
| 15:20,040 | 15:23,780 | where it looks like the stick figure is moving around? |
| 15:23,780 | 15:25,640 | It’s like a little stick figure. |
| 15:25,640 | 15:27,100 | It’s not like a thermal camera, |
| 15:27,100 | 15:29,320 | but it’s like a camera that will show |
| 15:29,320 | 15:30,920 | if there’s some type of figure. |
| 15:30,920 | 15:33,680 | – Oh, you’re talking about the ones where it picks up– |
| 15:33,680 | 15:36,600 | – I don’t even know what it’s looking for. |
| 15:36,600 | 15:38,160 | – So I think I know what you’re talking about. |
| 15:38,160 | 15:41,640 | There’s like the, ’cause they make them out of the old |
| 15:41,640 | 15:43,440 | like Xbox Kinect trackers. |
| 15:43,440 | 15:45,960 | – Yes, yes. – Where it tries to track |
| 15:45,960 | 15:47,800 | the shape of a human being. – Exactly. |
| 15:47,800 | 15:49,120 | That is a perfect example. |
| 15:49,120 | 15:54,120 | So something that is made to find a figure in a room. |
| 15:54,120 | 15:55,200 | – And it’ll track things. |
| 15:55,200 | 15:59,160 | – And you see it, a little stick figure on all fours. |
| 15:59,160 | 16:01,840 | – And it’s usually using like LIDAR detection, |
| 16:01,840 | 16:04,760 | which is basically sending out a signal |
| 16:04,760 | 16:08,100 | and then when the signal is bounced back, |
| 16:08,100 | 16:12,500 | it tries to measure what it’s seen. |
| 16:12,500 | 16:13,560 | – Echolocation. |
| 16:13,560 | 16:15,060 | – Echolocation, exactly. |
| 16:15,060 | 16:19,180 | And so like with that kind of stuff, it’s like. |
| 16:19,180 | 16:23,700 | – See, and when stuff like that shows a human figure |
| 16:23,700 | 16:28,340 | in a room where there is nothing, I’m dead already. |
| 16:28,340 | 16:33,340 | – But again, with me being a non-skeptic skeptic, |
| 16:37,460 | 16:42,460 | Who’s to say it’s not picking up on dust particles or it’s AI? |
| 16:42,460 | 16:44,180 | – In the shape of a human? |
| 16:44,180 | 16:45,700 | – Well, it doesn’t necessarily have to be |
| 16:45,700 | 16:46,540 | in the shape of human. |
| 16:46,540 | 16:51,540 | The AI or the tracking software just has to see, |
| 16:51,540 | 16:56,820 | oh, maybe that is a similar distance to over there. |
| 16:56,820 | 16:58,620 | Maybe that’s a shoulder. |
| 16:58,620 | 17:01,180 | Or that’s a similar distance to a human’s head. |
| 17:01,180 | 17:05,020 | – Oh, okay, so you’re saying like the software is putting– |
| 17:05,020 | 17:05,980 | – It’s guessing. |
| 17:05,980 | 17:08,080 | – Yeah, it’s putting together a human figure |
| 17:08,080 | 17:09,700 | even when there is not. – Yeah, exactly. |
| 17:09,700 | 17:14,700 | So if it sees 30 points and they happen to fall |
| 17:14,700 | 17:17,780 | in the same line, it’s gonna think it’s a human being. |
| 17:17,780 | 17:21,640 | – Okay, what if there was a creepypasta |
| 17:21,640 | 17:26,640 | about using the Xbox or PS, those systems? |
| 17:26,640 | 17:30,580 | – I brought that up because they literally do use |
| 17:30,580 | 17:35,220 | the old Kinect cameras to do that kind of stuff. |
| 17:35,220 | 17:40,220 | And I’m like, I appreciate the ingenuity |
| 17:40,220 | 17:43,420 | of using something for an unintended purpose |
| 17:43,420 | 17:46,640 | to kind of, but it doesn’t make it scientific |
| 17:46,640 | 17:49,220 | if it can’t be tested and proven. |
| 17:49,220 | 17:52,940 | – How would you test that? |
| 17:52,940 | 17:54,220 | – There’s not a way at the moment. |
| 17:54,220 | 17:56,700 | And that’s why people are like, |
| 17:56,700 | 17:58,500 | there’s a difference between saying, |
| 17:58,500 | 18:03,240 | this is unprovable or like, this is unproven. |
| 18:03,240 | 18:05,300 | we can’t prove that ghosts exist, |
| 18:05,300 | 18:07,240 | and saying we can’t prove that ghosts exist |
| 18:07,240 | 18:09,120 | so they don’t exist. |
| 18:09,120 | 18:10,200 | – Yeah. – Because what about |
| 18:10,200 | 18:11,040 | dark matter? |
| 18:11,040 | 18:13,000 | I’m sure a lot of people thought that dark matter |
| 18:13,000 | 18:14,360 | doesn’t exist, and now we know it does. |
| 18:14,360 | 18:15,400 | – Yeah. – So like, |
| 18:15,400 | 18:20,840 | I think in a very similar way where I can see |
| 18:20,840 | 18:23,480 | dust particles setting off a sensor, |
| 18:23,480 | 18:28,480 | I can also see maybe there is a certain energy field |
| 18:28,480 | 18:31,080 | with all the neurons in our brain, |
| 18:31,080 | 18:35,640 | we just pick up on something and it misfires in a certain way. |
| 18:35,640 | 18:39,000 | – You could stare into a dark room for a long time, |
| 18:39,000 | 18:46,040 | your mind is going to see something ’cause it’s putting together what you would see. |
| 18:46,040 | 18:47,560 | – Skin of Marie. |
| 18:47,560 | 18:48,600 | – Hey. – Check it out. |
| 18:48,600 | 18:50,120 | – That’s what the whole movie’s about. |
| 18:50,120 | 18:54,200 | I mean, it’s very interesting. |
| 18:54,200 | 18:57,080 | A lot of people definitely, they put a lot of, |
| 18:57,080 | 19:03,240 | kind of sees ghosts as something that has an intention |
| 19:03,240 | 19:05,080 | and it’s purposely trying to do something. |
| 19:05,080 | 19:06,840 | – Yeah. – And I think more likely, |
| 19:06,840 | 19:12,440 | I can see a certain energy signature that kind of lingers. |
| 19:12,440 | 19:13,160 | You know what I mean? |
| 19:13,160 | 19:16,760 | Something that, energy goes somewhere. |
| 19:16,760 | 19:18,600 | – Yeah. – And it has to dissipate. |
| 19:18,600 | 19:22,440 | Nothing can matter, cannot be created nor destroyed, et cetera. |
| 19:22,440 | 19:24,440 | I like science. |
| 19:24,440 | 19:25,440 | Science. |
| 19:25,440 | 19:31,000 | So there’s going to be so many science people one day when we’re massively famous and they’re |
| 19:31,000 | 19:34,080 | going to hear this episode and be like, “None of that is scientific.” |
| 19:34,080 | 19:35,080 | That’s fine. |
| 19:35,080 | 19:39,680 | That’s when we know we’ve made it, when we have haters. |
| 19:39,680 | 19:41,360 | Come on, bring the haters. |
| 19:41,360 | 19:42,840 | Let your haters be your motivators. |
| 19:42,840 | 19:43,840 | Thank you. |
| 19:43,840 | 19:44,840 | As they say. |
| 19:44,840 | 19:45,840 | I’m going to say. |
| 19:45,840 | 19:46,840 | Let’s take a break. |
| 19:46,840 | 19:47,840 | Okay. |
| 19:47,840 | 19:49,160 | And then we get back. |
| 19:49,160 | 19:52,240 | we’ll cover some of your pop culture ideas |
| 19:52,240 | 19:54,940 | that these kind of things have. |
| 19:54,940 | 19:56,500 | – Nice, we’ll be right back. |
| 19:56,500 | 19:57,340 | – Beat, R, beat. |
| 19:57,340 | 19:59,920 | (upbeat music) |
| 19:59,920 | 20:07,240 | And we’re back. |
| 20:07,240 | 20:10,880 | We have 20 minutes until our food comes, |
| 20:10,880 | 20:14,040 | so we gotta finish this episode. |
| 20:14,040 | 20:14,960 | – Really, in 20 minutes? |
| 20:14,960 | 20:16,760 | – Take it away, Reese. |
| 20:16,760 | 20:21,760 | So I wanted to talk about one of my favorite topics, |
| 20:21,760 | 20:24,160 | ghost Pokemon. |
| 20:24,160 | 20:25,240 | – Yeah, come on nerd. |
| 20:25,240 | 20:29,240 | – I just recently got a, yeah, |
| 20:29,240 | 20:31,320 | I just recently got a Gengar tattoo. |
| 20:31,320 | 20:34,120 | It’s healing, it’s itchy, looks good. |
| 20:34,120 | 20:37,480 | Rocky scratched it, which is fine. |
| 20:37,480 | 20:39,360 | – Does it have like a gnarly scar now? |
| 20:39,360 | 20:41,920 | – He’s got a little scar on his forehead, yes. |
| 20:41,920 | 20:42,760 | – Is it gonna be permanent? |
| 20:42,760 | 20:44,900 | Is it never gonna heal? |
| 20:44,900 | 20:45,960 | – I don’t know, we’ll see. |
| 20:45,960 | 20:48,520 | We’ll see if it heals and I like it, |
| 20:48,520 | 20:49,360 | I’m just gonna leave it like that. |
| 20:49,360 | 20:50,180 | – There we go. |
| 20:50,180 | 20:51,600 | I’ve never cut one of my tattoos, |
| 20:51,600 | 20:53,280 | so I don’t know how that affects it. |
| 20:53,280 | 20:55,640 | – Yeah, this is a first for me. |
| 20:55,640 | 20:58,160 | I told my tattoo artist, I was like, |
| 20:58,160 | 21:00,920 | Hey, so just FYI next time you see me,21:00,920;21:05,000;Gengar’s gonna have a really weird scar.” |
| 21:05,000 | 21:06,240 | – He’s been in a bar fight. |
| 21:06,240 | 21:09,040 | – Yeah, it’s freaking, looks great. |
| 21:09,040 | 21:13,360 | Anyway, so, Ghost Pokemon. |
| 21:13,360 | 21:18,360 | I just pulled up my five favorite. |
| 21:18,360 | 21:24,460 | I’ve liked ghost Pokemon ever since watching Pokemon |
| 21:24,460 | 21:29,360 | from way back when with Sabrina in that episode. |
| 21:29,360 | 21:31,120 | – The teenage witch? |
| 21:31,120 | 21:35,280 | – No, there was an episode in the old school Pokemon |
| 21:35,280 | 21:38,760 | where the first time Ash met the ghost Pokemon |
| 21:38,760 | 21:43,120 | was when he went to go fight the psychic chick, |
| 21:43,120 | 21:44,680 | – Sabrina. |
| 21:44,680 | 21:45,640 | – Okay, nerd. |
| 21:45,640 | 21:47,960 | (both laughing) |
| 21:47,960 | 21:49,200 | – I did not have to look this up. |
| 21:49,200 | 21:50,240 | This is something I knew. |
| 21:50,240 | 21:53,840 | – What I’ve always liked about the ghost Pokemon |
| 21:53,840 | 21:56,320 | is just the way that they’re inspired by the myths |
| 21:56,320 | 22:01,160 | and the cultural beliefs of ghosts. |
| 22:01,160 | 22:02,800 | I do find that really interesting, |
| 22:02,800 | 22:07,800 | the way you can adapt that into new media types. |
| 22:07,800 | 22:09,080 | – Yes. |
| 22:09,080 | 22:11,600 | – Like a thousand years ago, |
| 22:11,600 | 22:13,920 | they were not, when they were first thinking like, |
| 22:13,920 | 22:16,320 | Hey, I bet that dead person’s still here. |
| 22:16,320 | 22:18,080 | They weren’t like, “One day, somebody’s gonna make |
| 22:18,080 | 22:20,040 | little playing cards out of this. |
| 22:20,040 | 22:22,040 | – It’s gonna be a pocket monster. |
| 22:22,040 | 22:23,800 | – Right, like nobody was thinking that. |
| 22:23,800 | 22:25,600 | So it’s very interesting just kind of how |
| 22:25,600 | 22:26,720 | these ideas kind of– |
| 22:26,720 | 22:29,600 | – Well, like Pokemon lore was always inherently |
| 22:29,600 | 22:31,240 | like almost kind of creepy. |
| 22:31,240 | 22:32,520 | – Yeah. |
| 22:32,520 | 22:35,760 | – The Pokedex entries, you know, for some Pokemon |
| 22:35,760 | 22:39,840 | that aren’t ghost or psychic, pretty fucked up. |
| 22:39,840 | 22:42,880 | – Can you imagine though, if in this day and age, |
| 22:42,880 | 22:44,680 | it makes sense in the 90s, |
| 22:44,680 | 22:47,700 | we had an entire type of creature |
| 22:47,700 | 22:49,900 | based on like scaring children. |
| 22:49,900 | 22:50,940 | – Yeah. |
| 22:50,940 | 22:52,300 | – Could you imagine them doing that today? |
| 22:52,300 | 22:55,820 | They’re so like, they like pussyfoot around everything |
| 22:55,820 | 22:57,740 | and they like try to like make everything, |
| 22:57,740 | 23:00,460 | we can’t show our children this horrible thing. |
| 23:00,460 | 23:01,660 | In the 90s, they were like– |
| 23:01,660 | 23:02,820 | – In the 90s? |
| 23:02,820 | 23:06,060 | – What if this dog was terrified of a potato? |
| 23:06,060 | 23:09,220 | Like, I don’t know what courage the cowardly dog is about, |
| 23:09,220 | 23:10,380 | but that sounds right. |
| 23:10,380 | 23:11,660 | (Bridget laughs) |
| 23:11,660 | 23:14,020 | – That’s the whole concept of the show. |
| 23:14,020 | 23:16,260 | You know, I knew you were talking about courage, |
| 23:16,260 | 23:17,540 | and then you mentioned the potato, |
| 23:17,540 | 23:20,460 | and I was like, I don’t remember episode with the potato, |
| 23:20,460 | 23:22,500 | but I’m gonna go with it, ’cause this is my friend, |
| 23:22,500 | 23:23,540 | and I support it. |
| 23:23,540 | 23:24,380 | – Thank you. |
| 23:24,380 | 23:25,500 | (Bridget laughs) |
| 23:25,500 | 23:28,660 | – But yes, exactly, that’s a perfect example of just like, |
| 23:28,660 | 23:34,080 | there, that’s probably why we are the way we are, |
| 23:34,080 | 23:37,620 | but we got so scared by things, |
| 23:37,620 | 23:42,380 | and scared by media that was directed to kids. |
| 23:42,380 | 23:43,340 | – Yeah. |
| 23:43,340 | 23:47,300 | – Like there’s whole, you can find whole YouTube episodes |
| 23:47,300 | 23:49,940 | and channels about like childhood trauma |
| 23:49,940 | 23:51,740 | based off of media. |
| 23:51,740 | 23:52,580 | Love it. |
| 23:52,580 | 23:57,300 | So my first one I talked about was Gengar. |
| 23:57,300 | 24:02,300 | So in Pokemon Shield, his Pokedex says, |
| 24:02,300 | 24:05,820 | It lays traps hoping to steal the lives24:05,820;24:06,920;of those it catches. |
| 24:06,920 | 24:08,660 | If you stand in front of its mouth, |
| 24:08,660 | 24:12,200 | you’ll hear your loved one’s voices calling out to you. |
| 24:12,200 | 24:13,280 | That’s so creepy. |
| 24:13,280 | 24:14,680 | – Terrifying. – I love it. |
| 24:14,680 | 24:18,560 | – Very strong poltergeist kind of aesthetic. |
| 24:18,560 | 24:21,440 | – Yes. |
| 24:21,440 | 24:25,680 | And I mean, he just is always just a smiley dude. |
| 24:25,680 | 24:26,840 | I love him. |
| 24:26,840 | 24:30,240 | I don’t know why in particular I’ve always loved Gengar, |
| 24:30,240 | 24:33,360 | even as a kid, just ’cause he was like the smiling |
| 24:33,360 | 24:36,640 | and weird and laughing and purple. |
| 24:36,640 | 24:38,880 | – Yeah, he does, I mean, of all the Pokemon, |
| 24:38,880 | 24:40,760 | he does look like a pillow. |
| 24:40,760 | 24:43,080 | – Yes, squish squish. |
| 24:43,080 | 24:44,280 | – A big purple pillow. |
| 24:44,280 | 24:45,120 | – I love it. |
| 24:45,120 | 24:50,440 | And number two on my list was one I thought of |
| 24:50,440 | 24:53,240 | when I think of you. |
| 24:53,240 | 24:54,080 | – Oh. |
| 24:54,080 | 24:55,080 | – The Mistrevious. |
| 24:55,080 | 24:57,320 | – Yes, my queen. |
| 24:57,320 | 25:00,240 | – In Pokemon Emerald Pokedex, |
| 25:00,240 | 25:03,440 | a Mistrevious frightens people with a creepy sobbing cry. |
| 25:03,440 | 25:06,800 | It apparently uses its red spheres to absorb fear |
| 25:06,800 | 25:08,940 | of foes as its nutrition. |
| 25:08,940 | 25:10,000 | So that necklace. |
| 25:10,000 | 25:10,840 | – Yeah. |
| 25:10,840 | 25:12,280 | – Which I was like, oh, she fancy. |
| 25:12,280 | 25:13,360 | – Dope, dope as fuck. |
| 25:13,360 | 25:15,320 | I mean, first of all, fashion sense. |
| 25:15,320 | 25:16,160 | – Fashion. |
| 25:16,160 | 25:18,000 | – Okay, not only is she a ghost, |
| 25:18,000 | 25:20,080 | she has the witch aesthetic as well. |
| 25:20,080 | 25:20,920 | – Yes, I love that. |
| 25:20,920 | 25:25,920 | – Like who better to be on my team of seven Pokemon, |
| 25:25,920 | 25:28,820 | beating up other Pokemon. |
| 25:28,820 | 25:30,240 | – What was the… |
| 25:30,240 | 25:35,240 | – What’s the evolution? |
| 25:35,240 | 25:37,560 | Miss Magus? |
| 25:37,560 | 25:38,380 | – Yeah. |
| 25:38,380 | 25:39,220 | – Yes, okay. |
| 25:39,220 | 25:41,080 | I love that one too. |
| 25:41,080 | 25:44,000 | But I put Miss Trevious ’cause that was the one I had. |
| 25:44,000 | 25:45,160 | – Also purple. |
| 25:45,160 | 25:50,040 | Is there like a Japanese rooted reason |
| 25:50,040 | 25:52,200 | for all the purple ghost Pokemon? |
| 25:52,200 | 25:53,040 | – Why? |
| 25:53,040 | 25:55,880 | – ‘Cause you, I mean, I don’t know who made it. |
| 25:55,880 | 25:57,120 | Or is it just they were like– |
| 25:57,120 | 25:59,800 | – I was like, why in particular? |
| 25:59,800 | 26:01,200 | – Everyone, why apples? |
| 26:01,200 | 26:02,720 | This is not a crazy question. |
| 26:02,720 | 26:03,720 | – Wait, hold on. |
| 26:03,720 | 26:07,840 | Why is purple a spooky color? |
| 26:07,840 | 26:10,240 | – Because, you know, a European country |
| 26:10,240 | 26:12,000 | might have made like a– |
| 26:12,000 | 26:13,920 | – Maple, please. – Purple would be like royalty, |
| 26:13,920 | 26:16,400 | not necessarily like spookies. – Maple. |
| 26:16,400 | 26:18,440 | – And then they have the poison type |
| 26:18,440 | 26:19,880 | and they’re all purple. |
| 26:19,880 | 26:22,840 | So I do wonder if there’s a reason. |
| 26:22,840 | 26:27,240 | – I believe here, |
| 26:27,240 | 26:30,560 | is often associated with magic and witchcraft. |
| 26:30,560 | 26:32,040 | – Okay. – But why? |
| 26:32,040 | 26:33,760 | You tell me, you’re the witch. |
| 26:33,760 | 26:36,440 | – It pretty. |
| 26:36,440 | 26:38,800 | (both laughing) |
| 26:38,800 | 26:42,920 | – Wait, according to legend, this is just from Google, |
| 26:42,920 | 26:45,320 | for instance, a purple door is sometimes used |
| 26:45,320 | 26:47,080 | to mark the home of a witch. |
| 26:47,080 | 26:47,900 | – I mean, it makes sense. |
| 26:47,900 | 26:49,200 | I mean, purple is like related. |
| 26:49,200 | 26:51,240 | It’s like the, so you know when you think of |
| 26:51,240 | 26:55,320 | like the pentagram, and it has the four elements, |
| 26:55,320 | 26:59,560 | And those all come down to the red, green, blue, et cetera. |
| 26:59,560 | 27:04,320 | The fifth one is generally the ether, |
| 27:04,320 | 27:07,960 | like the spiritual concept, and that tends to be purple. |
| 27:07,960 | 27:09,440 | So I guess that makes sense. |
| 27:09,440 | 27:11,040 | – Okay. – They’re just going off of that. |
| 27:11,040 | 27:12,640 | But I didn’t think about that. |
| 27:12,640 | 27:16,200 | – Well, ’cause it’s like, I guess you could just, |
| 27:16,200 | 27:20,280 | I mean, black is a creepy, spooky color, |
| 27:20,280 | 27:22,280 | but if you just make all of them black, |
| 27:22,280 | 27:25,000 | and maybe they just did it to widen the palette of things. |
| 27:25,000 | 27:28,480 | Yeah. And I feel like it’s probably especially when you’re thinking of like. |
| 27:28,480 | 27:33,600 | Back in the day when it was all just like the black pixels, |
| 27:33,600 | 27:37,520 | none of them had they didn’t. |
| 27:37,520 | 27:40,440 | The color wasn’t as big of a deal when it came to the actual game, |
| 27:40,440 | 27:44,660 | but it was still represented on like the cards and the show and stuff. |
| 27:44,660 | 27:47,240 | So I feel like these are more new. |
| 27:47,240 | 27:49,540 | But Gengar was very it was an older one. |
| 27:49,540 | 27:52,900 | Yeah, I think in the manga he was black. Yeah. |
| 27:54,400 | 27:55,400 | Very interesting. |
| 27:55,400 | 28:00,780 | But speaking of color, my next one was Bennett, |
| 28:00,780 | 28:03,620 | which is like the puppet Pokemon with the zippers. |
| 28:03,620 | 28:06,700 | That Pokemon is like gray. |
| 28:06,700 | 28:08,960 | Yeah, and that makes sense, too. |
| 28:08,960 | 28:10,380 | Yeah. Dark gray. |
| 28:10,380 | 28:11,500 | I want a plushy of it. |
| 28:11,500 | 28:13,800 | I want it. |
| 28:13,800 | 28:16,960 | This one, according to the Pokédex and Pokémon Violet, |
| 28:16,960 | 28:20,800 | strong feelings of hatred turned a puppet into a Pokémon. |
| 28:20,800 | 28:24,020 | If it opens its mouth, its cursed energy escapes. |
| 28:24,060 | 28:26,820 | -Nice. Very, very Annabelle. -Yes. |
| 28:26,820 | 28:29,160 | -Very, very Chucky. -Very doll. |
| 28:29,160 | 28:30,440 | Very Robert the Doll. |
| 28:30,440 | 28:31,740 | (LAUGHTER) |
| 28:31,740 | 28:35,400 | And I’m like, “I need one. I want one so bad.” |
| 28:35,400 | 28:39,000 | -Vibes. -I loved it. I liked that one. |
| 28:39,000 | 28:40,380 | Um… |
| 28:40,380 | 28:44,800 | Once I got it in the game, I was like, “I had it with me |
| 28:44,800 | 28:48,800 | for such a long time, even though it was getting its ass kicked, |
| 28:48,800 | 28:52,180 | but it doesn’t matter, because I had it and I was happy.” |
| 28:52,180 | 28:53,640 | (LAUGHTER) |
| 28:54,020 | 28:58,700 | I just love the, I specifically love the designs of these like ghost and psycho |
| 28:58,700 | 28:59,500 | Pokemon’s too. |
| 28:59,500 | 29:04,000 | Like, I mean, it makes sense for our, our vibe, our aesthetic. |
| 29:04,000 | 29:05,700 | We tend to like zippers on the mouth and eyes. |
| 29:05,700 | 29:06,000 | Yeah. |
| 29:06,000 | 29:09,420 | Like it’s very, I mean, it’s very interesting. |
| 29:09,420 | 29:11,360 | I just like how they kind of adapt. |
| 29:11,360 | 29:15,020 | Um, and that’s, that’s a relatively newer Pokemon too. |
| 29:15,020 | 29:15,520 | Yeah. |
| 29:15,520 | 29:20,140 | My last one is Mimikyu. |
| 29:20,140 | 29:23,580 | A, that’s another kind of puppety one, right? |
| 29:23,740 | 29:27,980 | – Yes, according to Pokemon Ultra Moon, |
| 29:27,980 | 29:33,260 | Pokedex, a gust of wind revealed what hides |
| 29:33,260 | 29:36,740 | under this Pokemon’s rag to a passing trainer |
| 29:36,740 | 29:39,180 | who went home and died painfully that very night. |
| 29:39,180 | 29:42,100 | – This is the one that earlier when you read that to me, |
| 29:42,100 | 29:44,060 | I was like, ah, le petit mort. |
| 29:44,060 | 29:45,380 | – Yeah, I was like– |
| 29:45,380 | 29:47,100 | – A little orgasm moment. |
| 29:47,100 | 29:49,660 | – I was like, the way that makes it sound like |
| 29:49,660 | 29:52,380 | this Pokemon is just wearing like a short skirt. |
| 29:52,380 | 29:54,660 | – Yeah, flash somebody and they die. |
| 29:54,660 | 29:55,980 | – A little Marilyn Monroe moment. |
| 29:55,980 | 29:57,380 | – And then you die. |
| 29:57,380 | 30:00,300 | Gross. |
| 30:00,300 | 30:03,300 | I have a plushie of Mimikyu. |
| 30:03,300 | 30:05,700 | – Cute. |
| 30:05,700 | 30:07,040 | – That’s one I’ve always liked too |
| 30:07,040 | 30:09,220 | because I didn’t really understand what it was. |
| 30:09,220 | 30:11,540 | Like it’s supposed to be some type of creature |
| 30:11,540 | 30:15,940 | that is supposed to be like all sad and cute, |
| 30:15,940 | 30:19,380 | but it wears a costume of Pikachu |
| 30:19,380 | 30:21,840 | so it doesn’t wanna like scare people. |
| 30:21,840 | 30:23,360 | And then when you’re battling it, |
| 30:23,360 | 30:28,040 | when it’s disguise breaks, it’s neck breaks. |
| 30:28,040 | 30:29,440 | And I always thought that was cool. |
| 30:29,440 | 30:34,440 | – Well, and I feel like any of the types of Pokemon |
| 30:34,440 | 30:38,360 | that are based on weird things, |
| 30:38,360 | 30:42,680 | they should have those kind of extra little spooky touches. |
| 30:42,680 | 30:44,940 | And I’m surprised more of them don’t. |
| 30:44,940 | 30:49,940 | – Yeah, specifically for Mimikyu, I think that’s brilliant. |
| 30:50,240 | 30:53,320 | Pokemon, nobody knows what it actually looks like. |
| 30:53,320 | 30:56,800 | It is under a rag that looks like a different Pokemon. |
| 30:56,800 | 30:57,640 | – Just like me. |
| 30:57,640 | 31:00,260 | – Just like you. |
| 31:00,260 | 31:04,080 | (laughing) |
| 31:04,080 | 31:05,520 | That’s what I’ve always said. |
| 31:05,520 | 31:09,240 | I love them, I love them so much. |
| 31:09,240 | 31:10,240 | And my babies. |
| 31:10,240 | 31:11,080 | – Little babies. |
| 31:11,080 | 31:12,120 | – I just want more. |
| 31:12,120 | 31:15,120 | – Thank you for walking us through some of these. |
| 31:15,120 | 31:19,140 | I feel like eventually we’re gonna have, |
| 31:20,040 | 31:21,520 | As we develop more of an audience, |
| 31:21,520 | 31:23,360 | like we’ve gotta find those nerds |
| 31:23,360 | 31:24,740 | who just wanna talk about the things |
| 31:24,740 | 31:25,880 | that we wanna talk about. |
| 31:25,880 | 31:26,720 | – Yes, I can talk about these for– |
| 31:26,720 | 31:29,320 | – I’m like, we gotta get them a backlog to– |
| 31:29,320 | 31:31,860 | – Yeah, let’s sit down and talk about |
| 31:31,860 | 31:33,300 | these things for a while. |
| 31:33,300 | 31:34,140 | – Yeah. |
| 31:34,140 | 31:35,040 | – There’s a taste of it. |
| 31:35,040 | 31:35,880 | – Ooh, a taste. |
| 31:35,880 | 31:37,360 | (laughing) |
| 31:37,360 | 31:39,760 | Well, let’s go ahead, we’ll take a quick break, |
| 31:39,760 | 31:41,280 | and then we’ll come back and we can set |
| 31:41,280 | 31:43,520 | kind of our intentions for the next week. |
| 31:43,520 | 31:46,680 | And talk a little bit about what our plans are. |
| 31:46,680 | 31:47,520 | – Sounds good. |
| 31:47,520 | 31:48,840 | – I’m ups– |
| 31:48,840 | 31:55,840 | And we’re back. |
| 31:55,840 | 31:56,840 | Hello. |
| 31:56,840 | 31:57,840 | Hi there. |
| 31:57,840 | 32:00,840 | Oh, Mabel’s like, I just got down and now you’re excited. |
| 32:00,840 | 32:02,840 | I have to hear you. |
| 32:02,840 | 32:03,840 | I know. |
| 32:03,840 | 32:06,840 | Oh, she’s so. |
| 32:06,840 | 32:08,840 | She’s come on. |
| 32:08,840 | 32:10,840 | Get back up here. |
| 32:10,840 | 32:13,840 | Oh my goodness. |
| 32:13,840 | 32:15,840 | All right, so let’s talk about our intentions. |
| 32:15,840 | 32:20,840 | I always– I like the feeling of kind of putting out |
| 32:20,840 | 32:22,680 | what I want– |
| 32:22,680 | 32:23,680 | (BARKS) |
| 32:23,680 | 32:24,680 | (BARKING) |
| 32:24,680 | 32:25,680 | (BARKING) |
| 32:25,680 | 32:26,680 | (BARKING) |
| 32:26,680 | 32:27,680 | (BARKING) |
| 32:27,680 | 32:28,680 | Can you stop? |
| 32:28,680 | 32:31,480 | I like the idea of putting out into the universe |
| 32:31,480 | 32:32,480 | kind of like what I want to do |
| 32:32,480 | 32:37,480 | and setting those intentions to kind of follow through. |
| 32:37,480 | 32:39,200 | -Mm-hmm. -And so we obviously, |
| 32:39,200 | 32:42,000 | we’re starting our third season of the podcast, |
| 32:42,000 | 32:44,000 | -which is very exciting. -Yes. |
| 32:44,000 | 32:47,280 | We’ve decided kind of like the first time, |
| 32:47,280 | 32:49,600 | the first go around that we wanted to do |
| 32:49,600 | 32:51,420 | at least 10 episodes. |
| 32:51,420 | 32:53,960 | And we’ve kind of planned everything out. |
| 32:53,960 | 32:56,200 | We’re gonna start releasing them soon. |
| 32:56,200 | 32:59,280 | My personal side of that, |
| 32:59,280 | 33:00,880 | other than just keeping to the schedule |
| 33:00,880 | 33:02,520 | that we’ve set for ourselves, |
| 33:02,520 | 33:06,520 | is kind of taking on a little bit more |
| 33:06,520 | 33:08,200 | of that kind of social media and like marketing |
| 33:08,200 | 33:09,920 | and kind of like that kind of stuff |
| 33:09,920 | 33:12,160 | and kind of being a little more intentional with it |
| 33:12,160 | 33:17,160 | rather than just being like, record, edit, post, |
| 33:17,160 | 33:18,360 | forget about it. |
| 33:18,360 | 33:22,280 | I wanna start getting a community |
| 33:22,280 | 33:24,280 | of like-minded individuals together. |
| 33:24,280 | 33:30,200 | It’s hard to find those clicks of like, |
| 33:30,200 | 33:31,560 | where are the spooky gays? |
| 33:31,560 | 33:33,400 | Like, they gotta be somewhere. |
| 33:33,400 | 33:34,240 | – Spooky gays. |
| 33:34,240 | 33:38,320 | – So that’s probably my intention overall for this season |
| 33:38,320 | 33:42,160 | is to kind of work on finding those people |
| 33:42,160 | 33:45,520 | who can relate to us. |
| 33:45,520 | 33:49,320 | – I like feeling like I completed something. |
| 33:49,320 | 33:50,160 | – Yeah. |
| 33:50,160 | 33:53,400 | – So getting back into, there’s going to be some things |
| 33:53,400 | 33:54,920 | that I’m gonna have to research. |
| 33:54,920 | 33:55,760 | – Yeah. |
| 33:55,760 | 33:58,200 | – I’m looking forward to doing that. |
| 33:58,200 | 34:02,360 | – That is one of the biggest things that we have planned |
| 34:02,360 | 34:05,320 | is this season we’ve kind of broken up |
| 34:05,320 | 34:07,280 | the episode structures a little bit |
| 34:07,280 | 34:12,720 | a little more intentional. We really liked in the first 10 episodes that we liked doing |
| 34:12,720 | 34:19,680 | the research, but it’s very time consuming to kind of do the research, then do the writing, |
| 34:19,680 | 34:25,280 | then do all the planning. And so I really like what we’ve kind of done here is we have |
| 34:25,280 | 34:28,880 | our topic episodes that’s kind of based on how we did the second season when we did the |
| 34:28,880 | 34:35,320 | spooky season. Having a couple of those episodes because they’re fun and there’s kind of conversational |
| 34:35,320 | 34:36,800 | kind of like this one was. |
| 34:36,800 | 34:41,340 | And then next week, you’re gonna be doing |
| 34:41,340 | 34:43,520 | more of a story-based one. |
| 34:43,520 | 34:46,200 | And then I’ll follow up the following week. |
| 34:46,200 | 34:49,860 | That way we both have kind of separated |
| 34:49,860 | 34:52,320 | the responsibilities instead of both of us |
| 34:52,320 | 34:57,320 | every week having to do two weeks of research. |
| 34:57,320 | 34:59,980 | We can both kind of be like, I’m gonna take this week, |
| 34:59,980 | 35:01,960 | you take next week, we can focus on our own things |
| 35:01,960 | 35:02,800 | in the meantime. |
| 35:02,800 | 35:03,620 | – Yeah. |
| 35:03,620 | 35:05,080 | And then we’re still figuring out what works for us. |
| 35:05,080 | 35:10,080 | – Exactly, and this is kind of my plan for this season |
| 35:10,080 | 35:14,520 | is to just play around with it, see what works, |
| 35:14,520 | 35:16,480 | see what doesn’t, see what people like, |
| 35:16,480 | 35:20,320 | see what people don’t, and have a good time. |
| 35:20,320 | 35:22,200 | – Yeah. – Yeah. |
| 35:22,200 | 35:24,240 | – What about you, what are your thoughts? |
| 35:24,240 | 35:30,920 | – I want to, I said I’m looking forward to researching |
| 35:30,920 | 35:33,000 | and completing things. |
| 35:33,000 | 35:33,840 | – Yeah. |
| 35:33,840 | 35:40,620 | – I just wanna like talk about the things I like. |
| 35:40,620 | 35:42,360 | (both laughing) |
| 35:42,360 | 35:44,560 | That’s what I’m here to do with you. |
| 35:44,560 | 35:45,560 | – Yeah, definitely. |
| 35:45,560 | 35:52,480 | – And I don’t know, I just, I missed it. |
| 35:52,480 | 35:54,840 | – Yeah, I’m glad we’re back into it. |
| 35:54,840 | 35:55,680 | – Yeah. |
| 35:55,680 | 36:00,480 | – Some equal-eyed people might have noticed, |
| 36:00,480 | 36:03,120 | like we mentioned up at the top of the episode |
| 36:03,120 | 36:07,120 | that I changed the Instagram handle. |
| 36:07,120 | 36:07,960 | – Yes. |
| 36:07,960 | 36:11,800 | – This is kind of an all encompassing change |
| 36:11,800 | 36:13,980 | that it’s gonna take a while for me |
| 36:13,980 | 36:15,120 | to actually put into place, |
| 36:15,120 | 36:19,600 | but I wanna have more than just one project |
| 36:19,600 | 36:20,720 | going on at a time, |
| 36:20,720 | 36:23,160 | because this is what I wanna do as a career, |
| 36:23,160 | 36:24,960 | ’cause I really enjoy not only podcasting, |
| 36:24,960 | 36:28,000 | but video editing and creating content |
| 36:28,000 | 36:29,840 | and all that kind of stuff. |
| 36:29,840 | 36:34,840 | And so kind of having a place where we have our thing |
| 36:34,840 | 36:38,520 | that’s a little more kind of, |
| 36:38,520 | 36:41,260 | how do we say it? |
| 36:41,260 | 36:42,680 | Like kind of just like our general interest |
| 36:42,680 | 36:45,500 | within the kind of spooky realm. |
| 36:45,500 | 36:46,720 | – Yeah. |
| 36:46,720 | 36:48,440 | – But then I also have a lot of interest |
| 36:48,440 | 36:51,080 | in things that are a little more tech focused. |
| 36:51,080 | 36:51,920 | – Yeah. |
| 36:51,920 | 36:54,720 | – Cyberpunk and ARGs and like those kinds of things |
| 36:54,720 | 36:55,540 | that we like. |
| 36:55,540 | 36:56,380 | – Yeah. |
| 36:56,380 | 36:57,920 | – And I wanted a place where that makes sense too. |
| 36:57,920 | 36:59,360 | So. |
| 36:59,360 | 37:00,200 | – We like a lot of things. |
| 37:00,200 | 37:01,120 | – We like a lot of things. |
| 37:01,120 | 37:04,840 | And so I wanna be able to focus on more than just one thing. |
| 37:04,840 | 37:07,320 | But that takes some life changes coming up |
| 37:07,320 | 37:08,760 | to kind of make that happen. |
| 37:08,760 | 37:10,760 | – Yeah, at the end of the day, |
| 37:10,760 | 37:12,160 | we are pretty busy people. |
| 37:12,160 | 37:13,000 | – Exactly. |
| 37:13,000 | 37:16,080 | So I’m like, as long as we’re putting the roots down, |
| 37:16,080 | 37:17,920 | it’ll grow. |
| 37:17,920 | 37:21,120 | – Ah, yeah. |
| 37:21,120 | 37:25,360 | – I also eventually want to start some other content |
| 37:25,360 | 37:27,740 | that’s a little more less spooky, |
| 37:27,740 | 37:32,740 | more productivity focused and more kind of like |
| 37:32,740 | 37:36,980 | self-improvement kind of stuff |
| 37:36,980 | 37:40,280 | ’cause that’s another aspect that’s really important to me. |
| 37:40,280 | 37:42,820 | And so anyone who’s interested |
| 37:42,820 | 37:45,980 | can go to Jacob Remsdell on YouTube. |
| 37:45,980 | 37:47,300 | – Yeah. – And find that. |
| 37:47,300 | 37:48,580 | Not that it’s started yet. |
| 37:48,580 | 37:51,220 | I think it’s probably gonna be several months before that |
| 37:51,220 | 37:52,460 | anything happens. |
| 37:52,460 | 37:53,700 | But I’ve got my goals. |
| 37:53,700 | 37:55,220 | – Everything in your own time. |
| 37:55,220 | 37:58,620 | – And well, as soon as I can make my schedule |
| 37:58,620 | 38:00,460 | a little less hectic. |
| 38:00,460 | 38:01,300 | – Yes. |
| 38:01,300 | 38:05,780 | – We got moves to make and I’m so excited. |
| 38:05,780 | 38:06,620 | Thank you for listening. |
| 38:06,620 | 38:07,780 | – Welcome back. |
| 38:07,780 | 38:09,260 | – Welcome back. |
| 38:09,260 | 38:10,980 | – And see you next time. |
| 38:10,980 | 38:14,020 | – For Reese’s little story. |
| 38:14,020 | 38:15,620 | – I can’t wait. |
| 38:15,620 | 38:16,440 | – Having a– |
| 38:16,440 | 38:17,280 | – Look forward to it, I will do my best. |
| 38:17,280 | 38:19,240 | – My little minimal knowledge. |
| 38:20,860 | 38:29,020 | Make sure that you go in and follow at Argonauts.tube on Instagram because I will start posting |
| 38:29,020 | 38:33,420 | some content that can give you some hints to what’s coming up on the pod. |
| 38:33,420 | 38:34,420 | Exciting. |
| 38:34,420 | 38:35,420 | Get ready for spooks. |
| 38:35,420 | 38:36,420 | Spooks. |
| 38:36,420 | 38:37,420 | Spooks. |
| 38:37,420 | 38:38,420 | All right, bye everyone. |
| 38:38,420 | 38:39,420 | Bye. |
| 38:39,420 | 38:40,420 | Maple, say bye. |
| 38:40,420 | 38:41,420 | Say bye. |
| 38:41,420 | 38:42,420 | Maple. |
| 38:42,420 | 38:42,420 | Bye. |
| 38:42,420 | 38:44,580 | (howling) |
| 38:44,580 | 38:46,380 | – Me? Oh. |
| 38:46,380 | 38:48,640 | (laughing) |
| 38:48,640 | 38:51,220 | (upbeat music) |
| 38:51,220 | 38:55,220 | [Music] |