This week on the pod… as a follow up to Urban Legends and a final hoorah for Halloween, Jacob and Reese travel beyooond the graveee to bring you a very special Halloween day episode all about ghost stories. The pair discuss the trend of shortest scary stories, butt stabbings, horror tropes, ghost hunting, and the spooky-ooky feeling of being all alone.
For a final halloween treat, for the first time on the podcast today’s episode features a very special guest to tell us a ghost story of her very own… our friend Vivian!
The Allure of Ghost Stories: A Conversation Between Friends
Have you ever felt a chill run down your spine at the end of a ghost story, or been mesmerized by the mystery of a tale where the unexpected lurks around every corner? Ghost stories have the power to engage us on many levels, and their unique charm continues to capture the imagination of many. In this article, we’ll explore a casual conversation between friends on what makes a ghost story genuinely captivating.
A Twist in the Tale
The best ghost stories often come with a twist that leaves the reader or listener utterly aghast. It’s the unexpected cliffhanger or the wild twist that can transform a simple tale into something unforgettable.
“You wanna just be like, oh my God, no. ‘Cause then you’re just left with that foreboding feeling of, oh shit. I’d love that.”
The ability to stir these emotions is one of the trademarks of a great ghost story.
A Modern Take on Ghosts
Today’s ghost stories have evolved, and the way we perceive and represent ghosts has changed over time. Some stories depict ghosts as demonic entities, while others portray them as lost souls.
“It’s like one going into becoming a demon. We need a demonology episode at some point.”
These new dimensions add complexity to the tales and reflect our modern-day fears and fascinations.
Crafting the Atmosphere
A ghost story needs to be unsettling yet quiet, playing with pacing to create an unnerving effect without resorting to gore or overstimulation.
“It should be understated. It should make you feel like you’re alone. Isolation.”
In contrast to fast-paced, flashy horror, the real power of a ghost story lies in its subtlety and ability to create a sensation of isolation, sadness, or tragedy.
Personal Connections
Listening to ghost stories from those close to us adds a layer of authenticity that can make them more gripping. Personal experiences, family tales, and heartfelt narrations often resonate deeper.
“It’s a lot different when you hear something from someone you trust.”
These intimate experiences give a different flavor to the stories, making them all the more engaging and terrifying.
Ghost stories are not just about the supernatural; they are about emotions, pacing, innovation, and personal connection. They play with our fears, our feelings of isolation, and our endless curiosity about the unknown.
This friendly conversation about ghost stories reflects the universality of the topic and how it resonates with different people. From modern takes to the quiet, unsettling nature of these tales, ghost stories continue to be a fascinating part of our culture.
If you ever find yourself around a campfire or in a dark room with friends, don’t hesitate to share a ghost story. The chills, the twists, and the emotional connections might just make it a night to remember.
Transcript:
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| 00:00,000 | 00:02,580 | (upbeat music) |
| 00:02,580 | 00:15,320 | I forgot I turned that off. |
| 00:15,320 | 00:16,360 | Okay, hi. |
| 00:16,360 | 00:17,200 | For real time. |
| 00:17,200 | 00:18,760 | – Hello. |
| 00:18,760 | 00:20,120 | – Welcome to That Which Doesn’t Kill You. |
| 00:20,120 | 00:20,960 | Today. |
| 00:20,960 | 00:22,400 | – Yes. |
| 00:22,400 | 00:23,480 | Today. |
| 00:23,480 | 00:24,320 | – We. |
| 00:24,320 | 00:25,140 | – Are. |
| 00:25,140 | 00:25,980 | – Talking. |
| 00:25,980 | 00:27,080 | – About. |
| 00:27,080 | 00:27,920 | – Ghosts. |
| 00:27,920 | 00:28,740 | – Ghosts. |
| 00:28,740 | 00:31,400 | (both laughing) |
| 00:31,400 | 00:36,040 | – It’s a scary wind at night. |
| 00:36,040 | 00:36,880 | – Oh, okay. – That makes you think |
| 00:36,880 | 00:37,700 | of a ghost. |
| 00:37,700 | 00:39,560 | – You looked really funny while doing that though. |
| 00:39,560 | 00:41,220 | That wasn’t scary, it was funny. |
| 00:41,220 | 00:44,520 | – That is the meanest thing you’ve ever said to me. |
| 00:44,520 | 00:45,360 | – I doubt it. |
| 00:45,360 | 00:47,480 | – While wearing my hat, no less. |
| 00:47,480 | 00:48,320 | – Thank you. |
| 00:48,320 | 00:49,160 | (both laughing) |
| 00:49,160 | 00:50,360 | My head was cold. |
| 00:50,360 | 00:51,680 | – Oh no, is it the fan? |
| 00:51,680 | 00:53,240 | Do we need to turn the fan off? |
| 00:53,240 | 00:55,480 | – No, I washed my hair before coming here, |
| 00:55,480 | 00:57,800 | so, but I didn’t dry it. |
| 00:57,800 | 01:00,060 | just in a vat of ice cubes. |
| 01:00,060 | 01:02,100 | – Yeah. – I get it, I get it. |
| 01:02,100 | 01:03,560 | – Yeah. – I get it. |
| 01:03,560 | 01:05,980 | – Don’t you know, if you go outside |
| 01:05,980 | 01:09,580 | without drying your hair, you can get a headache and die. |
| 01:09,580 | 01:10,820 | – That’s so true. |
| 01:10,820 | 01:12,500 | But this is not about urban legends. |
| 01:12,500 | 01:14,300 | This is about ghosts. |
| 01:14,300 | 01:16,060 | – Not urban legends, it’s real. |
| 01:16,060 | 01:19,460 | (both laughing) |
| 01:19,460 | 01:22,180 | – Talking about ghosts. – Talking about it. |
| 01:22,180 | 01:25,220 | You’ve got some ice breakers prepared for us today. |
| 01:25,220 | 01:26,500 | – Yes. – You want it, |
| 01:26,500 | 01:27,340 | What was it? |
| 01:27,340 | 01:29,180 | Shortest scary stories ever? |
| 01:29,180 | 01:30,100 | – Ever. |
| 01:30,100 | 01:31,020 | – Okay, I’m excited. |
| 01:31,020 | 01:31,940 | I’m ready to go. |
| 01:31,940 | 01:35,940 | – The last man on earth sat alone in a room. |
| 01:35,940 | 01:38,780 | There was a knock on the door. |
| 01:38,780 | 01:39,800 | – No. |
| 01:39,800 | 01:44,700 | Maybe it was that ghost in the wind from earlier. |
| 01:44,700 | 01:47,980 | – Well, you know what I thought of when I read that? |
| 01:47,980 | 01:52,260 | I was like, is it a woman at the door? |
| 01:52,260 | 01:54,620 | – Is it a gender nonconforming entity? |
| 01:54,620 | 01:55,460 | – Yeah. |
| 01:55,460 | 01:59,980 | – That is very astute observation. |
| 01:59,980 | 02:02,740 | – And this was written by Frederick Brown. |
| 02:02,740 | 02:04,220 | – Frederick Brown. |
| 02:04,220 | 02:06,740 | – Originally published in 1948. |
| 02:06,740 | 02:09,820 | – Damn, he didn’t even think about women. |
| 02:09,820 | 02:11,500 | – No, he’s like only on my end. |
| 02:11,500 | 02:12,860 | – Maybe that was his point. |
| 02:12,860 | 02:15,820 | Maybe he’s like a visionary thinker. |
| 02:15,820 | 02:16,660 | – Deep dive. |
| 02:16,660 | 02:18,900 | (laughing) |
| 02:18,900 | 02:23,900 | And it’s the origin of the two senses, |
| 02:23,900 | 02:28,900 | of the two sentence Gary story challenge. |
| 02:28,900 | 02:31,980 | – Oh, that was the origin of it? |
| 02:31,980 | 02:33,060 | Interesting. |
| 02:33,060 | 02:36,220 | – According to Google. |
| 02:36,220 | 02:37,040 | – That’s very interesting. |
| 02:37,040 | 02:39,060 | I had not heard that one, I don’t think, |
| 02:39,060 | 02:42,020 | but I did hear the one about the baby shoes, |
| 02:42,020 | 02:44,580 | which is what I originally thought you were talking about. |
| 02:44,580 | 02:45,980 | – Yeah, I was not. |
| 02:45,980 | 02:47,260 | – You know that one though, right? |
| 02:47,260 | 02:48,100 | – No. |
| 02:48,100 | 02:52,500 | – Okay, so it’s like, add in the paper, |
| 02:52,500 | 02:55,180 | – Baby shoes, never worn. |
| 02:55,180 | 02:57,620 | ‘Cause it’s like the baby was like stillborn. |
| 02:57,620 | 02:59,420 | So like they never put the shoes on. |
| 02:59,420 | 03:01,660 | – Oh. |
| 03:01,660 | 03:02,660 | – So it’s like really sad. |
| 03:02,660 | 03:03,960 | ‘Cause like the baby died. |
| 03:03,960 | 03:06,660 | – Not funny. |
| 03:06,660 | 03:07,500 | – Stop laughing. |
| 03:07,500 | 03:08,780 | (laughing) |
| 03:08,780 | 03:09,620 | – No, it’s not funny. |
| 03:09,620 | 03:10,460 | – Horrible person. |
| 03:10,460 | 03:12,620 | – No, I was telling you, I was like, |
| 03:12,620 | 03:14,580 | have you heard of the two cents horse story? |
| 03:14,580 | 03:15,780 | You’re like, oh, baby shoes? |
| 03:15,780 | 03:16,620 | I’m like, what? |
| 03:16,620 | 03:17,580 | (laughing) |
| 03:17,580 | 03:18,420 | No. |
| 03:21,540 | 03:23,100 | – And then the man opens the door |
| 03:23,100 | 03:25,300 | and there’s just some pair of baby shoes. |
| 03:25,300 | 03:28,620 | – Just standing there on their own, |
| 03:28,620 | 03:30,340 | tap dancing on the door. |
| 03:30,340 | 03:32,660 | – That would be scary. |
| 03:32,660 | 03:33,540 | – Honestly. |
| 03:33,540 | 03:34,860 | – Scary stories. |
| 03:34,860 | 03:35,820 | – The ghosts. |
| 03:35,820 | 03:39,280 | – We loved them. |
| 03:39,280 | 03:40,700 | Yes, you were like the wind. |
| 03:40,700 | 03:41,780 | (laughing) |
| 03:41,780 | 03:44,300 | – I don’t know why that’s my go to. |
| 03:44,300 | 03:48,580 | I think it’s because it’s hard to say the plural of ghosts. |
| 03:48,580 | 03:49,420 | – Ghosts. |
| 03:49,420 | 03:50,740 | – Ghosts. |
| 03:50,740 | 03:52,140 | – Ghosts. – Ghosts. |
| 03:52,140 | 03:53,460 | – Ghosts. |
| 03:53,460 | 03:55,540 | – Why are you adding extra S’s? |
| 03:55,540 | 03:57,300 | – Just the one S, ghosts. |
| 03:57,300 | 03:58,140 | ‘Cause otherwise it just sounds like ghost. |
| 03:58,140 | 03:59,820 | – That’s like five S’s. |
| 03:59,820 | 04:02,220 | – I know, but I’m trying to say, wow. |
| 04:02,220 | 04:04,940 | I can’t believe you’re just like over here mocking me. |
| 04:04,940 | 04:05,780 | – That doesn’t feel like. |
| 04:05,780 | 04:08,580 | – On my pronunciation. |
| 04:08,580 | 04:09,880 | – I would never. |
| 04:09,880 | 04:10,720 | I didn’t. |
| 04:10,720 | 04:13,260 | – Roll the tapes, just now. |
| 04:13,260 | 04:14,220 | – You have no proof. |
| 04:14,220 | 04:16,060 | – Ghostlings is what I’m gonna go with. |
| 04:16,060 | 04:18,480 | – Oh, okay, make it cute. |
| 04:18,480 | 04:20,340 | I like it. |
| 04:20,340 | 04:22,580 | the only– that was your only short scary story? |
| 04:22,580 | 04:27,180 | -Yes. -(LAUGHTER) |
| 04:27,180 | 04:29,760 | I loved it. I just wanted to make sure. |
| 04:29,760 | 04:33,520 | I was like, “Let me not, uh, monopolize this.” |
| 04:33,520 | 04:37,060 | Two-sentence– two-sentence horror stories. |
| 04:37,060 | 04:39,100 | I can tell you a few more. |
| 04:39,100 | 04:40,360 | If you want to. |
| 04:40,360 | 04:43,200 | There was a picture in my phone of me sleeping. |
| 04:43,200 | 04:45,080 | I live alone. |
| 04:49,320 | 04:50,860 | – So today we’re talking about. |
| 04:50,860 | 04:52,400 | (both laughing) |
| 04:52,400 | 04:56,760 | – Ooh, my sister says that mommy killed her. |
| 04:56,760 | 04:59,420 | Mommy says that I don’t have a sister. |
| 04:59,420 | 05:02,640 | They just need to go to therapy. |
| 05:02,640 | 05:04,160 | – Yeah, I don’t know who to believe. |
| 05:04,160 | 05:05,880 | – Wait, these are longer than two sentences. |
| 05:05,880 | 05:08,760 | I can’t move, breathe, speak or hear |
| 05:08,760 | 05:11,120 | and it’s so dark all the time. |
| 05:11,120 | 05:13,640 | If I knew it would be this lonely, |
| 05:13,640 | 05:16,120 | I would have been cremated instead. |
| 05:16,120 | 05:18,000 | Oh, look, here’s a baby one. |
| 05:18,960 | 05:21,840 | I awoke to the sound of the baby monitor |
| 05:21,840 | 05:26,280 | crackling with a voice comforting my first born child. |
| 05:26,280 | 05:28,520 | As I adjusted to a new position, |
| 05:28,520 | 05:31,320 | my arm brushed against my wife sleeping next to me. |
| 05:31,320 | 05:34,440 | – So is it scary that they have a nanny? |
| 05:34,440 | 05:36,800 | – I know, so I was thinking, I would like to see a nanny. |
| 05:36,800 | 05:38,080 | – Or a grandparent. – We told you to go home. |
| 05:38,080 | 05:39,960 | – Or siblings. (laughs) |
| 05:39,960 | 05:42,520 | – My daughter won’t stop crying and screaming |
| 05:42,520 | 05:44,640 | in the middle of the night. |
| 05:44,640 | 05:46,520 | I visit her grave and ask her to stop, |
| 05:46,520 | 05:48,920 | but it doesn’t help. – Oh, that was a, |
| 05:48,920 | 05:52,080 | That was a little flip around. |
| 05:52,080 | 05:55,000 | You know, there’s a common thread amongst a lot of these, |
| 05:55,000 | 05:58,000 | other than the ghost slings, |
| 05:58,000 | 06:02,220 | which is like a lot of them are using the same like motifs |
| 06:02,220 | 06:04,140 | people do in like video, |
| 06:04,140 | 06:06,400 | like ghost paranormal videos and stuff. |
| 06:06,400 | 06:08,280 | – Yeah. Oh, this one’s good. |
| 06:08,280 | 06:12,480 | Cause it’s, if you have animals, you know. |
| 06:12,480 | 06:15,120 | Growing up with cats and dogs, |
| 06:15,120 | 06:17,360 | I got used to the sounds of scratching at my door |
| 06:17,360 | 06:18,360 | while I slept. |
| 06:18,360 | 06:20,760 | Now that I live alone, it is much more unsettling. |
| 06:20,760 | 06:22,560 | – That’s fair. |
| 06:22,560 | 06:23,380 | (laughing) |
| 06:23,380 | 06:26,220 | Yeah, that’s a, it’s pretty unsettling. |
| 06:26,220 | 06:28,900 | It reminds me of, you know that thing about like, |
| 06:28,900 | 06:32,600 | that I think it’s, is it a creepypasta I think? |
| 06:32,600 | 06:33,720 | Where it’s like, |
| 06:33,720 | 06:38,180 | the guy’s dog like licks his foot |
| 06:38,180 | 06:39,920 | under the covers or whatever, |
| 06:39,920 | 06:42,380 | and then he hears a noise and he goes out |
| 06:42,380 | 06:44,920 | and he finds his dog like murdered, |
| 06:44,920 | 06:47,400 | like outside of his house or whatever. |
| 06:47,400 | 06:49,320 | And basically the insinuation being |
| 06:49,320 | 06:50,760 | that somebody licked their foot. |
| 06:50,760 | 06:52,360 | (laughing) |
| 06:52,360 | 06:54,440 | – The real horror is the foot fetish. |
| 06:54,440 | 06:57,600 | – Whoever killed his dog licked his feet. |
| 06:57,600 | 06:58,800 | Have you heard that one? |
| 06:58,800 | 07:05,200 | It’s not a ghost, but I just thought it’d be. |
| 07:05,200 | 07:07,460 | (laughing) |
| 07:07,460 | 07:11,480 | – I don’t know what type of erotica you’re reading. |
| 07:11,480 | 07:14,400 | I don’t think this is the right place to talk. |
| 07:14,400 | 07:15,240 | (dog barking) |
| 07:15,240 | 07:16,080 | Ah! |
| 07:16,080 | 07:17,520 | (laughing) |
| 07:17,520 | 07:18,960 | She’s like, “Don’t say that about my–“ |
| 07:18,960 | 07:19,800 | – Yeah. |
| 07:19,800 | 07:21,080 | (laughing) |
| 07:21,080 | 07:22,200 | – I stepped on her, I’m sorry. |
| 07:22,200 | 07:24,200 | – Aw, Mabel, calm down. |
| 07:24,200 | 07:25,040 | (laughing) |
| 07:25,040 | 07:25,880 | – She’s like, “I’m very upset with him.” |
| 07:25,880 | 07:26,700 | – Get over it. |
| 07:26,700 | 07:28,600 | (laughing) |
| 07:28,600 | 07:29,800 | Pretty girl, go lay down. |
| 07:29,800 | 07:30,640 | – Ooh. |
| 07:30,640 | 07:34,440 | (dog barking) |
| 07:34,440 | 07:36,800 | Can you not? |
| 07:36,800 | 07:39,080 | – I like a good ghost story. |
| 07:39,080 | 07:39,920 | – Yes. |
| 07:39,920 | 07:41,400 | – There’s just something like, |
| 07:41,400 | 07:45,520 | kind of like poetic about like a lasting memory |
| 07:45,520 | 07:48,800 | lingering in someone’s absence. |
| 07:48,800 | 07:50,480 | That is very beautiful to me. |
| 07:50,480 | 07:52,360 | – Yeah, that is a very lovely way of putting that. |
| 07:52,360 | 07:54,040 | I was just saying, I like being creeped out. |
| 07:54,040 | 07:56,880 | – That’s fair, except you won’t watch “Barbarian.” |
| 07:56,880 | 07:59,560 | – Not creepy, it’s gross. |
| 07:59,560 | 08:00,740 | (laughing) |
| 08:00,740 | 08:02,300 | There’s no ghosts. |
| 08:02,300 | 08:05,240 | – You wouldn’t know ’cause you haven’t watched it. |
| 08:05,240 | 08:07,040 | – Yeah, but I read about it. |
| 08:07,040 | 08:07,880 | – I don’t know why you would do that. |
| 08:07,880 | 08:08,720 | – Spoiler alert, there’s no ghosts. |
| 08:08,720 | 08:10,560 | – I don’t know why you would do that. |
| 08:10,560 | 08:12,280 | Just go into things cold. |
| 08:12,280 | 08:13,640 | – No, you know what it was? |
| 08:13,640 | 08:16,960 | I looked up the trailer, like when you sent it to me, |
| 08:16,960 | 08:20,760 | and I watched it, and I was like, hmm, okay. |
| 08:20,760 | 08:25,720 | And I have things that I don’t feel comfortable seeing, |
| 08:25,720 | 08:28,480 | so I was like, okay, let me make sure that’s not in there. |
| 08:28,480 | 08:30,820 | I don’t like eye trauma. |
| 08:30,820 | 08:35,520 | I don’t like fingernails or anything being ripped off. |
| 08:35,520 | 08:36,760 | I don’t really like those. |
| 08:36,760 | 08:39,420 | I don’t like people being in extended amounts of pain |
| 08:39,420 | 08:42,060 | for a long time, like the Saw movies. |
| 08:42,060 | 08:43,040 | I just wanna be scared. |
| 08:43,040 | 08:45,760 | – Well, a lot of gore in general, I just find. |
| 08:45,760 | 08:46,920 | Like, you know, I get it. |
| 08:46,920 | 08:49,760 | – Well, it’s funny because when, |
| 08:49,760 | 08:51,220 | the parts that I didn’t look at |
| 08:51,220 | 08:53,600 | when we watched the Evil Dead, like the remake, |
| 08:53,600 | 08:55,200 | like I didn’t watch those parts, |
| 08:55,200 | 08:57,120 | so I didn’t have it in my head, so I’m fine. |
| 08:57,120 | 09:01,000 | The other parts, like the friggin’ chainsawing people |
| 09:01,000 | 09:04,280 | and cutting things off and cutting off limbs, |
| 09:04,280 | 09:05,640 | I’m fine with that. |
| 09:05,640 | 09:08,640 | I think that’s, I think it looks really cool, |
| 09:08,640 | 09:12,040 | but it just depends on where people are getting it from. |
| 09:12,040 | 09:16,320 | – It’s like the intimacy of smaller details. |
| 09:16,320 | 09:18,320 | – That’s a good way to put it, the intimacy of it. |
| 09:18,320 | 09:20,280 | – When you’re dealing with people’s eyeballs |
| 09:20,280 | 09:22,200 | or you’re like sticking something in someone’s ear |
| 09:22,200 | 09:23,880 | or like underneath their nails, |
| 09:23,880 | 09:26,120 | like those are very intimate things. |
| 09:26,120 | 09:28,480 | – I’m getting goosebumps, you just saying. |
| 09:28,480 | 09:30,380 | – And well, they’re parts of our body. |
| 09:30,380 | 09:32,400 | We don’t let other people mess with. |
| 09:32,400 | 09:33,240 | – Yes. |
| 09:33,240 | 09:34,120 | – You know what I mean? |
| 09:34,120 | 09:37,420 | People hug, people touch arms, |
| 09:37,420 | 09:41,960 | like it’s a macro idea of just chopping someone’s head off. |
| 09:41,960 | 09:43,520 | Like, it’s different. – Well, it’s like |
| 09:43,520 | 09:46,460 | Michael Myers ran around and instead of chopping people up, |
| 09:46,460 | 09:48,220 | he just like smacked their asses. |
| 09:48,220 | 09:49,740 | – Yeah. – Be okay with that. |
| 09:49,740 | 09:53,020 | – Do you remember the– – The butt stabber? |
| 09:53,020 | 09:54,840 | – Yeah. – Yeah. |
| 09:54,840 | 09:57,940 | That’s very unfortunate. – I told you I saw him, right? |
| 09:57,940 | 09:59,900 | – What, no. – Okay, so– |
| 09:59,900 | 10:01,620 | – Wait, was it at Pentagon City Mall? |
| 10:01,620 | 10:02,660 | – No. – (gasps) |
| 10:02,660 | 10:03,980 | – I swear I saw him. – Wait, was there another one? |
| 10:03,980 | 10:06,060 | – I swear I saw him because I, |
| 10:06,060 | 10:10,640 | so I used to work near a certain metro stop |
| 10:10,640 | 10:12,700 | and I was at a Dunkin’ Donuts, |
| 10:12,700 | 10:14,780 | I don’t know if people can geo locate that, |
| 10:14,780 | 10:16,460 | then there’s a lot of Dunkin’ Donuts out there. |
| 10:16,460 | 10:17,380 | – Near Metro. |
| 10:17,380 | 10:20,620 | – So I was at a particular Dunkin’ Donuts |
| 10:20,620 | 10:23,100 | and I saw this guy who really unnerved me, |
| 10:23,100 | 10:25,580 | which is why I remembered him. |
| 10:25,580 | 10:27,820 | ‘Cause with my aphantasia and everything, |
| 10:27,820 | 10:29,220 | I don’t remember what people look like, |
| 10:29,220 | 10:31,660 | I don’t have a mental image of them. |
| 10:31,660 | 10:33,620 | – Which is fascinating in and of itself. |
| 10:33,620 | 10:35,420 | – I was so unnerved by this guy |
| 10:35,420 | 10:38,380 | that when I saw his photo that same day |
| 10:38,380 | 10:42,800 | on like Fox 5 or whatever, talking about him. |
| 10:42,800 | 10:46,160 | I remembered him because it would have been that day |
| 10:46,160 | 10:47,000 | that I’d seen him. |
| 10:47,000 | 10:50,320 | – Okay, okay, so you can recognize. |
| 10:50,320 | 10:53,160 | – Yeah, so I was like, that’s that dude |
| 10:53,160 | 10:55,260 | that I was like, that’s a creepy dude. |
| 10:55,260 | 10:59,600 | And I mean, and it was very unnerving. |
| 10:59,600 | 11:00,840 | If it had happened the other way around, |
| 11:00,840 | 11:02,760 | I probably wouldn’t have remembered him. |
| 11:02,760 | 11:06,240 | Like, I don’t think if I had had the Fox 5– |
| 11:06,240 | 11:07,480 | – Maybe you saw that first. |
| 11:07,480 | 11:10,480 | Yeah, if I had seen the representation of him, |
| 11:10,480 | 11:12,520 | like the drawings, you know, like the drawings, |
| 11:12,520 | 11:14,020 | -like the suspect drawings. -Yeah. |
| 11:14,020 | 11:16,320 | If I had seen that first and then saw Creepy Dude, |
| 11:16,320 | 11:17,520 | I wouldn’t have been like, |
| 11:17,520 | 11:19,200 | “That looks like that guy that was on Fox 5.” |
| 11:19,200 | 11:20,400 | -I would have been like– -Yeah, there would have been |
| 11:20,400 | 11:21,740 | -no association for you. -Yeah. |
| 11:21,740 | 11:23,160 | It would not have connected. |
| 11:23,160 | 11:26,320 | But it was very unnerving after realizing that. |
| 11:26,320 | 11:30,920 | And so that one has always been a little creepy. |
| 11:30,920 | 11:34,620 | What is your favorite thing about, like, a good ghost story? |
| 11:34,720 | 11:38,800 | I like something that will, |
| 11:38,800 | 11:42,640 | like, it’ll be like the last sentence of a story |
| 11:42,640 | 11:44,000 | or something where it’ll be like, |
| 11:44,000 | 11:47,680 | and then da-da-da, like some type of a cliffhanger |
| 11:47,680 | 11:51,880 | or like a crazy twist. |
| 11:51,880 | 11:55,960 | I wanna just be like, oh my God, no. |
| 11:55,960 | 11:57,960 | ‘Cause then you’re just left with that like, |
| 11:57,960 | 12:01,200 | foreboding feeling of, oh shit. |
| 12:01,200 | 12:02,040 | I’d love that. |
| 12:02,040 | 12:03,480 | – Well, and I think that speaks to, |
| 12:03,480 | 12:09,120 | Like I was saying, like that kind of like, um, like out of place, like temporal vibe |
| 12:09,120 | 12:13,180 | of ghost stories being like, there is no beginning, there is no end. |
| 12:13,180 | 12:16,820 | This is like a, uh, something lost in space and time. |
| 12:16,820 | 12:21,200 | You did something, a demon enters you or enters your space, right? |
| 12:21,200 | 12:24,720 | And then there’s a way, hopefully, to get rid of it. |
| 12:24,720 | 12:26,200 | And like some ghost stories are like that. |
| 12:26,200 | 12:29,960 | I feel like modern day ghost stories are more like that, where they’re basically treating |
| 12:29,960 | 12:33,320 | ghosts like you would a demon. |
| 12:33,320 | 12:37,720 | But I feel like a good old-fashioned ghost story is like, they just happen to be here. |
| 12:37,720 | 12:39,200 | They’re not fucking with you. |
| 12:39,200 | 12:41,320 | They’re not like trying to scare you necessarily. |
| 12:41,320 | 12:45,360 | Then you get into like poltergeist, which is kind of like bridges the gap between the |
| 12:45,360 | 12:46,360 | two. |
| 12:46,360 | 12:47,360 | Yeah. |
| 12:47,360 | 12:49,000 | It’s like one going into becoming a demon. |
| 12:49,000 | 12:50,000 | Yeah. |
| 12:50,000 | 12:53,000 | Ooh, we need like a demonology episode at some point. |
| 12:53,000 | 12:54,000 | Oh, yes. |
| 12:54,000 | 12:58,200 | This is all, I mean, it’s all very, you know, these kinds of interests are the same things |
| 12:58,200 | 13:01,800 | that I talk about on the channel, Killing Jar, YouTube. |
| 13:01,800 | 13:02,800 | Thank you. |
| 13:02,800 | 13:03,800 | But– |
| 13:03,800 | 13:07,040 | What’s something you like in a– in a ghost story? |
| 13:07,040 | 13:09,340 | I think there’s– I mean, I think there’s a lot of, like, |
| 13:09,340 | 13:13,340 | levels to ghost stories specifically… |
| 13:13,340 | 13:16,380 | -Mm-hmm. -…that are different |
| 13:16,380 | 13:19,920 | from something like a slasher or a demon or– |
| 13:19,920 | 13:21,860 | -Yeah. -You know, like, a ghost story, |
| 13:21,860 | 13:24,520 | I feel like, has to have a really good control |
| 13:24,520 | 13:26,400 | of pacing for it to be good. |
| 13:26,400 | 13:29,700 | It has to be unsettling, but kind of quiet. |
| 13:29,700 | 13:32,360 | -Yes, I want to be unnerved. -Quiet, unsettling. Yeah. |
| 13:32,460 | 13:35,140 | as opposed to, like we were saying, |
| 13:35,140 | 13:37,340 | you don’t wanna be grossed out necessarily by a ghost story |
| 13:37,340 | 13:38,260 | ’cause it doesn’t make sense. |
| 13:38,260 | 13:40,900 | – No, ghosts can’t bleed. |
| 13:40,900 | 13:43,500 | – Right, or like when there’s like, |
| 13:43,500 | 13:44,820 | everything’s super fast-paced |
| 13:44,820 | 13:46,780 | and there’s like flashing lights and like all this stuff, |
| 13:46,780 | 13:49,380 | I’m like, that doesn’t make sense. |
| 13:49,380 | 13:50,220 | – Yeah. |
| 13:50,220 | 13:51,060 | – When you, you know, like a good– |
| 13:51,060 | 13:53,260 | – I’m a little overwhelmed for what you’re saying |
| 13:53,260 | 13:54,100 | and I’m not scared anymore. – Exactly. |
| 13:54,100 | 13:56,180 | It should be understated. |
| 13:56,180 | 13:57,020 | – Yes. |
| 13:57,020 | 13:59,460 | – And it should make you feel like you’re alone. |
| 13:59,460 | 14:00,540 | – Yes. |
| 14:00,540 | 14:02,060 | – And I think– – Isolation. |
| 14:02,060 | 14:07,060 | – Yes, I think that a good ghost story is about emotions |
| 14:07,060 | 14:10,740 | and is about being isolated, like you said. |
| 14:10,740 | 14:14,800 | Otherwise– – Or even they’re sad. |
| 14:14,800 | 14:19,720 | Like if it’s a ghost story that makes me feel sad, |
| 14:19,720 | 14:21,680 | I’m just like, “Oh, that’s tragic.” |
| 14:21,680 | 14:23,360 | I like that too. – Yeah. |
| 14:23,360 | 14:25,600 | So ’cause when I think of an angry ghost, |
| 14:25,600 | 14:26,960 | that’s when I start thinking about poltergeists |
| 14:26,960 | 14:28,680 | ’cause they’re the ones pushing shit around |
| 14:28,680 | 14:31,000 | and actively trying to hurt people. |
| 14:31,000 | 14:32,120 | “Throw shit back at you.” |
| 14:32,120 | 14:37,120 | – Yeah, but a good ghost is just like sitting there |
| 14:37,120 | 14:38,720 | mourning or like, |
| 14:38,720 | 14:42,460 | you know, just feeling her feels. |
| 14:42,460 | 14:43,640 | Do you have any favorites? |
| 14:43,640 | 14:44,960 | Like what’s your favorite ghost story? |
| 14:44,960 | 14:49,960 | – You know, there’s a lot I don’t remember specifics of, |
| 14:49,960 | 14:53,760 | but growing up, family, and even like I have friends |
| 14:53,760 | 14:58,040 | that have family that’s had ghost stories. |
| 14:58,040 | 15:02,080 | I like listening to ghost stories from people close to me. |
| 15:02,080 | 15:03,040 | – Yeah. – You know? |
| 15:03,040 | 15:07,440 | Like I remember Vivian’s mom stayed with us |
| 15:07,440 | 15:12,000 | for one weekend and we were just like sitting around |
| 15:12,000 | 15:14,200 | and just listening to her talk about |
| 15:14,200 | 15:17,960 | like stuff that she remembers that happened to her. |
| 15:17,960 | 15:21,280 | – Yeah. – And her family terrified me. |
| 15:21,280 | 15:23,200 | – It’s a lot different when you hear something |
| 15:23,200 | 15:25,040 | from someone you trust. – You know, yes. |
| 15:25,040 | 15:26,600 | – And you know like they’re not gonna be lying |
| 15:26,600 | 15:28,880 | – Well, in my step-mom, |
| 15:28,880 | 15:32,440 | I remember my step-mom telling me one time, |
| 15:32,440 | 15:36,840 | like, she’s like, “Yeah, me and my stepbrother |
| 15:36,840 | 15:41,300 | “and my stepsister, we were staying at some base. |
| 15:41,300 | 15:44,760 | “I forgot where, I think it was in Maryland.” |
| 15:44,760 | 15:47,720 | But she was saying like, she would hear somebody |
| 15:47,720 | 15:49,700 | like coming up the stairs, but she’s like, |
| 15:49,700 | 15:52,080 | “There was no one else in the house.” |
| 15:52,080 | 15:54,380 | Everyone else was upstairs in my room, |
| 15:54,380 | 15:58,020 | but she would hear going up and down the stairs. |
| 15:58,020 | 15:59,440 | I’m like, no, no. |
| 15:59,440 | 16:00,780 | (laughing) |
| 16:00,780 | 16:02,140 | – You’re like, get out. |
| 16:02,140 | 16:03,400 | – No. |
| 16:03,400 | 16:05,140 | – Well, that’s interesting ’cause there’s like, |
| 16:05,140 | 16:08,580 | I feel like there’s some core things |
| 16:08,580 | 16:11,920 | that people associate with a haunting, |
| 16:11,920 | 16:16,020 | especially when it comes to real life ghost stories, |
| 16:16,020 | 16:20,260 | creaking stairs and footsteps and stuff like that, |
| 16:20,260 | 16:21,700 | and then whispering. |
| 16:21,700 | 16:24,800 | and then you get into the kind of modern day stuff, |
| 16:24,800 | 16:27,520 | like cold spots and EMF readings. |
| 16:27,520 | 16:30,400 | And there’s a lot of kind of stuff that, |
| 16:30,400 | 16:32,600 | there’s stuff that can be explained away. |
| 16:32,600 | 16:33,520 | – Yes. – And then there’s stuff |
| 16:33,520 | 16:36,100 | that the only way you can explain it away |
| 16:36,100 | 16:39,640 | is if you tell somebody they’re wrong |
| 16:39,640 | 16:41,520 | or they’re lying or they’re crazy. |
| 16:41,520 | 16:44,880 | Like, no, you misunderstood what was happening. |
| 16:44,880 | 16:49,880 | – Yeah, like I can’t think of a way to explain this away |
| 16:50,600 | 16:54,240 | other than you’re lying or something like you said. |
| 16:54,240 | 16:55,560 | – And just ’cause something can’t be proven |
| 16:55,560 | 16:56,960 | doesn’t mean it’s not real. |
| 16:56,960 | 16:58,680 | There’s a whole lot of stuff |
| 16:58,680 | 17:00,720 | that people used to think was witchcraft |
| 17:00,720 | 17:02,760 | that we just consider science and magic, |
| 17:02,760 | 17:05,600 | or magic is just medicine now. |
| 17:05,600 | 17:09,420 | So who’s to say we’re not gonna find out |
| 17:09,420 | 17:13,700 | some quantum theory of relativity? |
| 17:13,700 | 17:15,880 | – Like there are just energies abound |
| 17:15,880 | 17:17,920 | and they live in this alternate universe |
| 17:17,920 | 17:19,080 | and everyone knows. |
| 17:19,080 | 17:26,560 | Or even, I mean, the theory of time itself, not to get too science-y, is that it’s a dimension |
| 17:26,560 | 17:27,560 | of space. |
| 17:27,560 | 17:34,040 | Like, it’s a concept that we see it as having a beginning and an end, because that’s just |
| 17:34,040 | 17:35,040 | how we perceive it. |
| 17:35,040 | 17:38,160 | But in actuality, it’s not linear. |
| 17:38,160 | 17:46,840 | So who’s to say that we can’t somehow, in all of the trillions of neurons, can’t perceive |
| 17:46,840 | 17:54,040 | something that can’t be measured by, you know, a copper wire in a machine. So yeah, I’m I’m |
| 17:54,040 | 18:04,680 | not going to discount anyone’s stories. We are contacting a living spirit live on the |
| 18:04,680 | 18:05,680 | podcast. |
| 18:05,680 | 18:08,260 | (upbeat music) |
| 18:08,260 | 18:16,580 | – Also, this is Vivian. |
| 18:16,580 | 18:18,620 | (laughing) |
| 18:18,620 | 18:20,420 | – Oh wait, you’re recording me right now? |
| 18:20,420 | 18:21,360 | – Yes. – Yes. |
| 18:21,360 | 18:23,660 | – Welcome to the podcast. |
| 18:23,660 | 18:25,300 | – Hi, thank you. |
| 18:25,300 | 18:26,220 | (laughing) |
| 18:26,220 | 18:28,020 | – Our first guest. |
| 18:28,020 | 18:30,940 | – I actually have a couple stories, |
| 18:30,940 | 18:32,980 | but one, when I was thinking about it, |
| 18:32,980 | 18:35,340 | I didn’t realize how many stories I had. |
| 18:35,340 | 18:39,440 | I mentioned talking to your mom and being like, oh my god. |
| 18:39,440 | 18:41,240 | – Yeah, my mom has a lot of creepy stories. |
| 18:41,240 | 18:43,300 | There’s a lot of new creepy stories too |
| 18:43,300 | 18:45,060 | that my sister was telling me about, |
| 18:45,060 | 18:46,800 | about their house in Texas. |
| 18:46,800 | 18:47,960 | – Oh. |
| 18:47,960 | 18:51,560 | – Which I knew about some of them, |
| 18:51,560 | 18:53,720 | but she also told me a couple things |
| 18:53,720 | 18:56,840 | about our other house in Kingstown. |
| 18:56,840 | 18:58,640 | – What? The Kingstown one? |
| 18:58,640 | 19:01,200 | – Yeah, I didn’t know about this. |
| 19:01,200 | 19:03,840 | We were talking about it last time she was over here. |
| 19:03,840 | 19:08,840 | And I told her to stop telling me things. |
| 19:08,840 | 19:10,840 | I was like, “Please, now is not the time. |
| 19:10,840 | 19:12,840 | Tell me when it’s daylight.” |
| 19:12,840 | 19:15,840 | And I was like, “Oh my gosh, I’m going to be a lot louder.” |
| 19:15,840 | 19:19,840 | I loved listening to her tell those stories. |
| 19:19,840 | 19:20,840 | Okay, tell us one. |
| 19:20,840 | 19:24,840 | So, this happened twice. |
| 19:24,840 | 19:27,840 | So, it was over 15 years ago. |
| 19:27,840 | 19:29,840 | We were living in Florida. |
| 19:29,840 | 19:37,120 | And we were in, when we first moved to Florida, we lived in an apartment. |
| 19:37,120 | 19:39,920 | And we were waiting for our house to be built. |
| 19:39,920 | 19:43,480 | So we were just living there for like a year or so. |
| 19:43,480 | 19:51,080 | But one night I was in my bedroom and I was just like sitting there and I kept hearing |
| 19:51,080 | 19:54,520 | the weird noise by my window. |
| 19:54,520 | 19:59,560 | So my bedroom window faced our front door of the apartment. |
| 19:59,560 | 20:05,280 | So when you walk into the apartment to the left was my bedroom door or my bedroom window. |
| 20:05,280 | 20:10,480 | And so one night I kept hearing noises from my window. |
| 20:10,480 | 20:14,760 | So I knocked on my parents’ door and they’re like, “You’re being paranoid.” |
| 20:14,760 | 20:15,760 | I’m like, “No.” |
| 20:15,760 | 20:16,760 | I don’t know. |
| 20:16,760 | 20:22,760 | I don’t think like I was paranoid somebody was like trying to break into the house. |
| 20:22,760 | 20:23,760 | Right. |
| 20:23,760 | 20:24,760 | Yeah. |
| 20:24,760 | 20:25,760 | I’m not worried about ghosts at this point. |
| 20:25,760 | 20:26,760 | Yeah, I know. |
| 20:26,760 | 20:27,760 | I’m worried about real people. |
| 20:27,760 | 20:29,800 | And I just kept hearing like weird noises. |
| 20:29,800 | 20:34,720 | And then I specifically remember I’m in my bed and I’m reading a book. |
| 20:34,720 | 20:36,460 | I wasn’t falling asleep. |
| 20:36,460 | 20:38,360 | I was like fully awake. |
| 20:38,360 | 20:40,900 | And this just sounds like really funny because it’s like |
| 20:40,900 | 20:44,400 | I feel like it’s like a stereotypical like movie goes down like |
| 20:44,400 | 20:47,240 | in a comedy ghost movie. Right. |
| 20:47,240 | 20:52,200 | But I just heard something go. |
| 20:52,200 | 20:55,200 | No. |
| 20:56,840 | 20:57,840 | Thank you. Good bye. |
| 20:57,840 | 21:01,000 | Oh my god, my spine just tingled. |
| 21:01,000 | 21:03,200 | I threw my book. |
| 21:03,200 | 21:06,940 | I ran to my parents room and I literally like burst in their room |
| 21:06,940 | 21:08,240 | and just fell on the floor. |
| 21:08,240 | 21:10,040 | My back was against their bed. |
| 21:10,040 | 21:12,840 | And my dad was just like, what happened? What happened? |
| 21:12,840 | 21:14,440 | And he like immediately goes and like |
| 21:14,440 | 21:16,800 | go and get his gun. |
| 21:16,800 | 21:20,300 | And he’s like searching around the apartment. |
| 21:20,300 | 21:23,800 | Because I just kept saying, like, all I can say was I heard a man |
| 21:23,800 | 21:26,840 | because it was just so deep of a voice. |
| 21:26,840 | 21:30,680 | Oh, no, that’s so scary. |
| 21:30,680 | 21:32,480 | Yeah, it was |
| 21:32,480 | 21:36,080 | the face Jacob is making. |
| 21:36,080 | 21:38,480 | It looks so concerned. |
| 21:38,480 | 21:39,980 | My parents |
| 21:39,980 | 21:43,120 | were really mad at me after that. |
| 21:43,120 | 21:45,220 | They were just like, you know, you’re being paranoid. |
| 21:45,220 | 21:46,460 | You have to stop on his period. |
| 21:46,460 | 21:47,920 | I was just like, I wasn’t watching it. |
| 21:47,920 | 21:49,220 | I was reading my book. |
| 21:49,220 | 21:50,420 | Yeah. |
| 21:50,420 | 21:52,560 | And I was just sitting in bed. |
| 21:52,560 | 21:55,020 | And yeah, so. |
| 21:55,020 | 21:56,440 | – Ooh, that is scary. |
| 21:56,440 | 21:59,880 | – A few years go by, |
| 21:59,880 | 22:03,460 | and we’re now living in our house. |
| 22:03,460 | 22:07,280 | And my sister is, |
| 22:07,280 | 22:08,760 | she’s a toddler at this point. |
| 22:08,760 | 22:10,520 | I wanna say she’s like two, three. |
| 22:10,520 | 22:11,360 | – Aw. |
| 22:11,360 | 22:12,180 | (laughing) |
| 22:12,180 | 22:14,680 | – But in that house, one day, |
| 22:14,680 | 22:18,280 | my dad had left town and he was traveling for work |
| 22:18,280 | 22:20,840 | and it was just my mom, my sister and I. |
| 22:20,840 | 22:25,560 | And earlier in the day, my sister kept saying, |
| 22:25,560 | 22:27,860 | she was in her room and I was in, |
| 22:27,860 | 22:29,560 | I think I was in either the bathroom or my room, |
| 22:29,560 | 22:32,480 | ’cause our hallway was just like my room, |
| 22:32,480 | 22:34,640 | the bathroom and then her room. |
| 22:34,640 | 22:37,440 | And she’s in there playing and then she comes running |
| 22:37,440 | 22:41,080 | to my mom and she kept saying like in Spanish, |
| 22:41,080 | 22:43,080 | like the girl, the girl. |
| 22:43,080 | 22:45,640 | And I was like, why? |
| 22:45,640 | 22:47,400 | Like my mom, and my mom came up to me, |
| 22:47,400 | 22:48,680 | she’s like, were you with your sister? |
| 22:48,680 | 22:50,000 | I was like, no, she was playing in her room |
| 22:50,000 | 22:56,360 | I was in my room and my mom just came up to me, she kept saying, “Nanana,” like the girl. |
| 22:56,360 | 23:06,280 | So I was like, “Oh, okay. That’s really weird.” So again, later in the day, my mom was sleeping, |
| 23:06,280 | 23:12,640 | my sister was sleeping, and I’m sitting in the living room and I’m watching TV and I |
| 23:12,640 | 23:18,440 | hear the exact same noise come from behind me in our living room. |
| 23:18,440 | 23:21,360 | And it’s like a totally new house. |
| 23:21,360 | 23:24,040 | I wasn’t sitting on, I mean, we had the same furniture |
| 23:24,040 | 23:26,760 | in a different room, but I wasn’t sitting in that room. |
| 23:26,760 | 23:29,640 | But I heard the same sound. |
| 23:29,640 | 23:32,120 | Like I’m sitting there watching TV. |
| 23:32,120 | 23:34,040 | I still remember I was watching. |
| 23:34,040 | 23:36,080 | I was watching Laguna Beach on MTV. |
| 23:36,080 | 23:38,240 | (laughing) |
| 23:38,240 | 23:40,280 | I’m sitting there and then all of a sudden |
| 23:40,280 | 23:43,080 | from behind me I hear, “Ugh.” |
| 23:43,080 | 23:44,120 | And like I– |
| 23:44,120 | 23:45,440 | – Ugh. – No. |
| 23:45,440 | 23:46,840 | – Jumped up. – I’m against it. |
| 23:46,840 | 23:49,120 | – I hate that so much. |
| 23:49,120 | 23:51,280 | – What is this nightmare that has happened? |
| 23:51,280 | 23:54,160 | So I run into my room and I tell my mom |
| 23:54,160 | 23:56,400 | and she’s just like super freaked out |
| 23:56,400 | 23:58,980 | and she like, we couldn’t explain it. |
| 23:58,980 | 24:03,040 | And I think later on that night, something else happened. |
| 24:03,040 | 24:05,680 | My sister’s swing turned on. |
| 24:05,680 | 24:09,000 | – La nana. |
| 24:09,000 | 24:12,200 | – Yeah, we were just all very confused. |
| 24:12,200 | 24:15,240 | And I kinda, it hasn’t, |
| 24:15,240 | 24:17,140 | Nothing like this happened since then. |
| 24:17,140 | 24:20,240 | But yeah, it was very creepy. |
| 24:20,240 | 24:21,080 | – Ooh. |
| 24:21,080 | 24:22,440 | – That is my… |
| 24:22,440 | 24:23,280 | – Those are really good ones. |
| 24:23,280 | 24:25,640 | – Yeah, that is absolutely horrifying. |
| 24:25,640 | 24:26,920 | – Yeah. |
| 24:26,920 | 24:30,920 | – It was, like, it was just, I don’t know, |
| 24:30,920 | 24:33,440 | but weird things like that happen to my family a lot. |
| 24:33,440 | 24:35,520 | More than I realize, I feel like, |
| 24:35,520 | 24:36,600 | like when I really think about it, I’m like, |
| 24:36,600 | 24:39,000 | wow, there’s a lot of things that happen to my family |
| 24:39,000 | 24:43,180 | and just like random, random things, |
| 24:43,180 | 24:45,340 | like in the house in Texas, |
| 24:45,340 | 24:50,340 | my parents would always hear banging. |
| 24:50,340 | 24:53,940 | That was like a thing that started happening a lot more. |
| 24:53,940 | 24:56,060 | – I feel like you can explain away banging |
| 24:56,060 | 24:58,060 | a lot of the times, especially like in a house. |
| 24:58,060 | 24:59,180 | – Yeah, yeah. |
| 24:59,180 | 25:02,940 | So what happened was my mom |
| 25:02,940 | 25:08,820 | was heard knocking on the garage door. |
| 25:08,820 | 25:11,260 | So it was the door that leads into the garage. |
| 25:11,260 | 25:13,340 | – Oh, she told me this, yeah. |
| 25:13,340 | 25:16,820 | – Yeah, so that was kind of a weird one. |
| 25:16,820 | 25:17,660 | ‘Cause my mom was just like, |
| 25:17,660 | 25:19,220 | “Okay, so someone broke in the house.” |
| 25:19,220 | 25:20,060 | – Yeah, I was gonna be like, |
| 25:20,060 | 25:22,140 | at that point I’m afraid of a real person. |
| 25:22,140 | 25:22,980 | – Yeah. – I’m scared. |
| 25:22,980 | 25:25,100 | – That’s the thing, a lot of these stories |
| 25:25,100 | 25:26,820 | can come down to like, |
| 25:26,820 | 25:30,860 | it’s just as terrifying that it’s a real person. |
| 25:30,860 | 25:33,300 | I mean, like even if you look at like a lot of, |
| 25:33,300 | 25:35,380 | I’m gonna, every episode we’re gonna be talking |
| 25:35,380 | 25:37,220 | about the only videos that scare me, |
| 25:37,220 | 25:39,540 | which is real video, like real things. |
| 25:39,540 | 25:42,940 | – Those security footage of people walking around |
| 25:42,940 | 25:44,500 | strangers’ houses and stuff, |
| 25:44,500 | 25:48,660 | how many ghost stories are about things being moved |
| 25:48,660 | 25:49,700 | in the middle of the night? |
| 25:49,700 | 25:51,820 | That could end up just being… |
| 25:51,820 | 25:53,140 | – Yeah, yeah. |
| 25:53,140 | 25:54,940 | It’s very annoying. |
| 25:54,940 | 25:55,780 | – It’s very annoying. |
| 25:55,780 | 25:56,600 | – It makes it worse. |
| 25:56,600 | 25:57,440 | – Yes. |
| 25:57,440 | 25:58,280 | – And you’re like, “No, it’s not a ghost, |
| 25:58,280 | 26:00,420 | it’s a solid person.” |
| 26:00,420 | 26:03,300 | – Yeah, a solid person with real fists |
| 26:03,300 | 26:05,300 | who are gonna punch me to death. |
| 26:05,300 | 26:08,300 | – I’d rather be like, “Oh, hi, spirit Bob, how are you?” |
| 26:08,300 | 26:09,140 | (laughing) |
| 26:09,140 | 26:10,180 | – That’s spirit, Bob. |
| 26:10,180 | 26:12,500 | – That’s scary. |
| 26:12,500 | 26:16,680 | Oh, well, thank you so much for telling us |
| 26:16,680 | 26:18,100 | those horrible stories. |
| 26:18,100 | 26:20,380 | – Yes, definitely, thank you. |
| 26:20,380 | 26:23,780 | – I think I have heard you and or your mom |
| 26:23,780 | 26:26,220 | have told me these before and I probably blocked them out |
| 26:26,220 | 26:27,300 | ’cause they were scary. |
| 26:27,300 | 26:29,700 | Now I’m gonna remember them all over again. |
| 26:29,700 | 26:30,940 | Thank you. |
| 26:30,940 | 26:33,180 | – You’re very welcome, any time. |
| 26:33,180 | 26:34,920 | I have so many. |
| 26:34,920 | 26:36,020 | (laughing) |
| 26:36,020 | 26:37,380 | – I’ll do an extended– |
| 26:37,380 | 26:42,020 | Yes, we’ll have to have you on like a as a full fledged guest at some point. |
| 26:42,020 | 26:44,420 | Yay, that’ll be fun. |
| 26:44,420 | 26:45,220 | Yeah, definitely. |
| 26:45,220 | 26:46,340 | I will speak to the people. |
| 26:46,340 | 26:50,020 | Thank you, baby. I’ll talk to you soon. |
| 26:50,020 | 26:52,340 | Thank you. Bye. Love you. |
| 26:52,340 | 27:01,220 | What an angel. |
| 27:01,220 | 27:05,060 | She is a perfection. |
| 27:05,060 | 27:07,220 | We must respect her at all costs. |
| 27:07,220 | 27:10,260 | Her and her daughter. Yes. And the spirits. |
| 27:10,260 | 27:21,860 | Scared. What a tale. Yeah. Yeah, no. That’s freaking scary. I 100% would rather it be a ghost |
| 27:21,860 | 27:29,300 | than a person. Oh, yeah. Knocking away at my door or breaking into my house. And moaning in my ear. |
| 27:31,540 | 27:32,540 | No, horrible. |
| 27:32,540 | 27:35,140 | Oh, those ones are good ones, though. |
| 27:35,140 | 27:36,020 | Yeah. Yeah. |
| 27:36,020 | 27:39,660 | Like, I have no explanation for that, except there’s just some scary shit. |
| 27:39,660 | 27:40,100 | Right. |
| 27:40,100 | 27:43,540 | Do you have a favorite, like, well-known ghost story? |
| 27:43,540 | 27:51,060 | I think in my in my history, I was always obsessed with quite a few different like |
| 27:51,060 | 27:54,900 | those like collections you would get at like the school library |
| 27:54,900 | 27:58,740 | that would be like ten most common ghost stories. |
| 27:58,740 | 27:59,460 | Yeah. |
| 27:59,460 | 28:05,300 | And I would most of the time they would have like the Winchester house, you know, which is why I |
| 28:05,300 | 28:09,700 | like added to the list. So I was like, well, that’s an interesting one. She’s old. She’s old. |
| 28:09,700 | 28:18,420 | It’s just so interesting that somebody could like, be so afraid of ghosts that they would like |
| 28:18,420 | 28:23,460 | refuse to stop building their house so that the ghost cannot find a way to like, |
| 28:23,460 | 28:28,820 | like what a concept. I can’t think of I mean, there’s definitely other places like |
| 28:28,820 | 28:30,340 | like bizarre places in the world. |
| 28:30,340 | 28:33,100 | But that’s definitely one that I think has become, |
| 28:33,100 | 28:36,100 | as far as ghost stories, has become such a commodity. |
| 28:36,100 | 28:36,940 | Like it’s such a– |
| 28:36,940 | 28:38,900 | – Well, and it’s so the, |
| 28:38,900 | 28:43,900 | I think a lot of what keeps that interesting and relevant |
| 28:43,900 | 28:47,660 | is that I can’t think of any other ghost, |
| 28:47,660 | 28:49,020 | any other like ghost story |
| 28:49,020 | 28:53,340 | where there is a physical manifestation of what, |
| 28:53,340 | 28:56,780 | I guess, these ghosts scared this person into doing. |
| 28:56,780 | 28:58,540 | – Yeah, definitely. |
| 28:58,540 | 28:59,800 | – Well, and it’s just so interesting, |
| 28:59,800 | 29:02,680 | like the kind of concepts and beliefs about like, |
| 29:02,680 | 29:04,980 | you know, like, I mean, things like, |
| 29:04,980 | 29:06,660 | like having a weird staircase |
| 29:06,660 | 29:09,580 | so that ghost can’t walk up here. |
| 29:09,580 | 29:11,440 | I’m like, the logic doesn’t make sense, |
| 29:11,440 | 29:13,940 | but maybe the logic makes sense to a ghost. |
| 29:13,940 | 29:16,020 | – They’re like, no, I can’t get there. |
| 29:16,020 | 29:18,460 | – And I can’t fight ghost logic. |
| 29:18,460 | 29:19,940 | Like I– – Don’t even try. |
| 29:19,940 | 29:21,060 | – You can’t even try. |
| 29:21,060 | 29:23,380 | What about ghost hunting? |
| 29:23,380 | 29:26,780 | – You wanna do it? |
| 29:26,780 | 29:27,620 | – No thoughts. |
| 29:27,620 | 29:29,020 | (both laughing) |
| 29:29,020 | 29:31,220 | Seems really dangerous to me. |
| 29:31,220 | 29:32,340 | – Does it? |
| 29:32,340 | 29:33,420 | – It does. |
| 29:33,420 | 29:34,780 | – How so? |
| 29:34,780 | 29:36,120 | – Just ’cause, |
| 29:36,120 | 29:40,680 | what if it’s, this also goes back to like, |
| 29:40,680 | 29:44,680 | what if it’s just a real person in this house somewhere |
| 29:44,680 | 29:46,340 | and they could kill me? |
| 29:46,340 | 29:47,180 | – That’s fair. |
| 29:47,180 | 29:49,920 | Well, I think a lot of ghost hunting is typically, |
| 29:49,920 | 29:52,980 | like people are inviting you to be there. |
| 29:52,980 | 29:55,580 | (both laughing) |
| 29:55,580 | 29:58,780 | I don’t think you just break into someone’s house and search for a ghost. |
| 29:58,780 | 29:59,780 | (laughter) |
| 29:59,780 | 30:03,380 | >> KRISTEN: I’m talking about like abandoned places. |
| 30:03,380 | 30:07,180 | >> JONAH: We went in two different directions. |
| 30:07,180 | 30:08,180 | (laughter) |
| 30:08,180 | 30:09,180 | >> KRISTEN: No. |
| 30:09,180 | 30:14,620 | >> JONAH: Yeah, I’m not talking about breaking into abandoned places. |
| 30:14,620 | 30:17,660 | I’m talking about just in general. |
| 30:17,660 | 30:18,660 | >> KRISTEN: Well… |
| 30:18,660 | 30:21,620 | >> JONAH: Places you’re allowed to be. |
| 30:21,620 | 30:23,380 | >> KRISTEN: Oh, no. |
| 30:23,380 | 30:25,220 | – You know, and they can get me for this |
| 30:25,220 | 30:27,180 | because it’s happened a long time ago. |
| 30:27,180 | 30:29,380 | – Statue of limitations, baby. |
| 30:29,380 | 30:30,200 | – Exactly. |
| 30:30,200 | 30:36,340 | You recently put out the Bunny Man video. |
| 30:36,340 | 30:38,740 | So that prison that– |
| 30:38,740 | 30:39,580 | – The Lorton prison. |
| 30:39,580 | 30:43,540 | – The Lorton prison, when I was a kid, |
| 30:43,540 | 30:45,300 | it was still abandoned. |
| 30:45,300 | 30:47,940 | And I went in there with some of my friends |
| 30:47,940 | 30:49,880 | that she wanted to take pictures. |
| 30:50,980 | 30:53,820 | – It looked exactly how you would imagine. |
| 30:53,820 | 30:54,660 | – In abandoned prison. |
| 30:54,660 | 30:56,300 | – In abandoned prison. |
| 30:56,300 | 31:00,740 | Probably got mesothelioma from being in there. |
| 31:00,740 | 31:01,580 | – Oh no. |
| 31:01,580 | 31:02,420 | (laughing) |
| 31:02,420 | 31:03,580 | – Very dusty. |
| 31:03,580 | 31:06,620 | And rusty and all that. |
| 31:06,620 | 31:07,580 | – Oh no. |
| 31:07,580 | 31:09,380 | – Man, was it cool though. |
| 31:09,380 | 31:12,300 | – Yeah, that is definitely somewhere where |
| 31:12,300 | 31:15,260 | I would be terrified to be in there. |
| 31:15,260 | 31:18,180 | But so outside of my alternative high school |
| 31:18,180 | 31:19,020 | that I went to. |
| 31:19,020 | 31:19,860 | – Alternative, everyone was. |
| 31:19,860 | 31:21,860 | – Everyone was an emo kid. – So I was a little baddie. |
| 31:21,860 | 31:23,940 | (both laughing) |
| 31:23,940 | 31:24,780 | – Alternatives. |
| 31:24,780 | 31:30,140 | – You know, it was literally like criminals, |
| 31:30,140 | 31:31,580 | pregnant girls and me. |
| 31:31,580 | 31:33,700 | And right outside of– |
| 31:33,700 | 31:34,700 | – And homosexuals. |
| 31:34,700 | 31:37,140 | (both laughing) |
| 31:37,140 | 31:41,260 | – Right outside of like the parking area, |
| 31:41,260 | 31:43,900 | there was this abandoned house |
| 31:43,900 | 31:45,380 | and everyone called it the hell house, |
| 31:45,380 | 31:48,660 | which is very typical. |
| 31:48,660 | 31:50,660 | but it was right off of the school. |
| 31:50,660 | 31:52,980 | So it was like, everyone ended up |
| 31:52,980 | 31:54,420 | kind of breaking in there and stuff. |
| 31:54,420 | 31:56,900 | And so it’s like covered in spray paint and dilapidated |
| 31:56,900 | 32:00,260 | and like, you know, stuff where kids have like broken tables |
| 32:00,260 | 32:02,420 | and like all this kind of stuff. |
| 32:02,420 | 32:04,300 | So I went, I mean, I went in there a couple of times |
| 32:04,300 | 32:06,060 | until like the novelty wore off. |
| 32:06,060 | 32:07,180 | – Yeah. |
| 32:07,180 | 32:09,300 | And you’re just like, this is just an old, old stinky place. |
| 32:09,300 | 32:11,580 | – It’s just an old stinky place. |
| 32:11,580 | 32:13,180 | But it was interesting, ’cause it was like one of those, |
| 32:13,180 | 32:16,380 | like a really old house where it was like, |
| 32:16,380 | 32:19,260 | there’s a basement and then it’s all like one floor. |
| 32:19,260 | 32:21,620 | So it’s not like, and even like the basement was like, |
| 32:21,620 | 32:22,940 | it was like boarded up or whatever. |
| 32:22,940 | 32:24,140 | So nobody could ever get, |
| 32:24,140 | 32:25,660 | I mean, I’m sure somebody went down there. |
| 32:25,660 | 32:27,420 | – Was it like a Blair Witch house? |
| 32:27,420 | 32:29,340 | – Kind of, like definitely older. |
| 32:29,340 | 32:34,880 | I mean, probably like early 1900s, kind of like old house. |
| 32:34,880 | 32:39,740 | But it was one of the, you know, it’s like where, |
| 32:39,740 | 32:41,560 | where there’s like an old house, |
| 32:41,560 | 32:43,980 | but like it’s surrounded by like strip malls |
| 32:43,980 | 32:46,900 | and highway exits and stuff. |
| 32:46,900 | 32:48,180 | It was that kind of situation. |
| 32:48,180 | 32:51,180 | – Oh, okay, I was like, we couldn’t buy out this land. |
| 32:51,180 | 32:54,380 | – This one tiny hell house could not be purchased. |
| 32:54,380 | 32:55,980 | So whenever we watch, you know, |
| 32:55,980 | 32:59,620 | we’ll watch found footage, ghost hunters, |
| 32:59,620 | 33:00,740 | and that kind of stuff. – Love. |
| 33:00,740 | 33:02,700 | – Very exciting, very fun. |
| 33:02,700 | 33:05,020 | But anytime I see those, like, |
| 33:05,020 | 33:07,380 | ah, kids have broken in and spray painted, |
| 33:07,380 | 33:09,300 | that’s what I think of, is like, |
| 33:09,300 | 33:12,300 | going back to my old hell house that I broke into. |
| 33:12,300 | 33:13,140 | (both laughing) |
| 33:13,140 | 33:15,260 | – You’re like, “Aww.” |
| 33:15,260 | 33:18,900 | – But that was, you know, you take that and it’s like, |
| 33:18,900 | 33:20,460 | “Oh, well, you’re right next to the school. |
| 33:20,460 | 33:22,680 | “It’s middle of the day. |
| 33:22,680 | 33:23,700 | “Who cares?” |
| 33:23,700 | 33:26,860 | – So you’re, but you’re saying ghost hunting |
| 33:26,860 | 33:29,380 | where there is consent. |
| 33:29,380 | 33:30,620 | – Yeah, yes. |
| 33:30,620 | 33:32,480 | Where someone’s like, “My house is haunted. |
| 33:32,480 | 33:35,100 | “Please come with your fancy gadgets |
| 33:35,100 | 33:38,080 | “and get evidence or whatever.” |
| 33:38,080 | 33:40,740 | (both laughing) |
| 33:42,460 | 33:44,260 | – Just super sassy like that. |
| 33:44,260 | 33:45,460 | – Yeah. |
| 33:45,460 | 33:47,420 | Excuse me, could you get your ass over here |
| 33:47,420 | 33:48,300 | and find a ghost please? |
| 33:48,300 | 33:50,380 | Thank you. – Or whatever. |
| 33:50,380 | 33:52,540 | – That’s the voicemail that they leave us. |
| 33:52,540 | 33:55,300 | – And they’re like, “We’re on our way, ma’am.” |
| 33:55,300 | 33:56,620 | – It’s fucking Karen’s man. |
| 33:56,620 | 33:59,540 | – With their ghost. |
| 33:59,540 | 34:01,820 | – I mean, I find it very interesting, |
| 34:01,820 | 34:04,860 | but I think a lot of times some of the stuff can, |
| 34:04,860 | 34:07,740 | like we’ve, you know, there’s a healthy amount |
| 34:07,740 | 34:09,660 | of skepticism is necessary. |
| 34:09,660 | 34:11,140 | – Yes. |
| 34:11,140 | 34:15,660 | And anyone who doesn’t do skepticism |
| 34:15,660 | 34:18,460 | is probably not somebody who can be trusted. |
| 34:18,460 | 34:20,020 | And I mean that for anyone. |
| 34:20,020 | 34:21,260 | I mean that for psychics. |
| 34:21,260 | 34:23,300 | I mean that for witchcraft. |
| 34:23,300 | 34:24,780 | I mean that, and I’m saying that |
| 34:24,780 | 34:26,340 | as somebody who was very weird. |
| 34:26,340 | 34:30,740 | – Yeah, you’re a very logical person |
| 34:30,740 | 34:34,100 | considering the war and the things. |
| 34:34,100 | 34:36,460 | (laughing) |
| 34:36,460 | 34:39,980 | – But I just feel like if you cannot approach things |
| 34:39,980 | 34:41,620 | with some kind of like, |
| 34:41,620 | 34:44,100 | there’s always the possibility this isn’t real. |
| 34:44,100 | 34:45,500 | And it goes the other way around. |
| 34:45,500 | 34:48,540 | Sure, you can say there’s 99% likelihood |
| 34:48,540 | 34:50,060 | that you’ll never see a ghost. |
| 34:50,060 | 34:53,340 | But you should always be skeptical of your own beliefs |
| 34:53,340 | 34:56,380 | enough to say there’s that 1% chance that you will. |
| 34:56,380 | 34:58,460 | I mean, it’s like– – Can you definitively say |
| 34:58,460 | 34:59,300 | you can’t? |
| 34:59,300 | 35:00,120 | No. – Right. |
| 35:00,120 | 35:01,140 | Well, it’s like that thing where they say |
| 35:01,140 | 35:03,260 | that like everyone in their lifetime |
| 35:03,260 | 35:05,980 | like walks by like seven serial killers or whatever. |
| 35:05,980 | 35:06,820 | – Oh yeah. – Whatever, you know, |
| 35:06,820 | 35:09,740 | it’s like, how can you say you’ve never met a serial killer? |
| 35:09,740 | 35:12,860 | you don’t know, how can you say you’ve never met a ghost? |
| 35:12,860 | 35:13,860 | How can you say you’ve never been |
| 35:13,860 | 35:14,980 | in the same room with a ghost? |
| 35:14,980 | 35:18,100 | Just because you believe that they’re not real |
| 35:18,100 | 35:19,660 | doesn’t mean they’re not. |
| 35:19,660 | 35:21,100 | And the other way goes too, |
| 35:21,100 | 35:23,020 | just because you believe that a ghost is real |
| 35:23,020 | 35:24,820 | does not mean that it is. |
| 35:24,820 | 35:28,100 | Everyone’s gotta be skeptical of everything. |
| 35:28,100 | 35:30,540 | Believe nothing, nothing is real. |
| 35:30,540 | 35:33,100 | – Well, and it’s almost, nothing. |
| 35:33,100 | 35:38,100 | It’s almost fun to try and logic away something |
| 35:38,700 | 35:42,380 | And then you kind of hit a wall where it’s like, |
| 35:42,380 | 35:44,940 | I don’t know if I believe my own. |
| 35:44,940 | 35:46,580 | Yeah, I just don’t know. |
| 35:46,580 | 35:49,100 | And you know what, the unknown, it’s a curious thing. |
| 35:49,100 | 35:50,360 | – Exactly. – Love it. |
| 35:50,360 | 35:54,580 | – And I think, I mean, so much of what a ghost entails |
| 35:54,580 | 36:00,420 | reflects the unknown in ways that other things don’t. |
| 36:00,420 | 36:02,260 | Like you look at like monsters and stuff |
| 36:02,260 | 36:05,220 | and you can, there’s not as much ambiguity. |
| 36:05,220 | 36:06,060 | – Yeah. |
| 36:06,060 | 36:07,420 | – Speaking of ghost hunting, |
| 36:07,420 | 36:11,460 | let’s maybe talk a little bit about some of the different, |
| 36:11,460 | 36:13,740 | different techniques and stuff that people do |
| 36:13,740 | 36:15,880 | and our general thoughts on them. |
| 36:15,880 | 36:19,140 | So what do you think about, |
| 36:19,140 | 36:20,300 | like when it comes to ghost hunting, |
| 36:20,300 | 36:23,300 | like do you think cold spots for instance |
| 36:23,300 | 36:27,180 | are like a viable way to detect a spirit? |
| 36:27,180 | 36:31,340 | – I think for any time I’ve ever watched those shows |
| 36:31,340 | 36:34,940 | when the cold spots don’t really |
| 36:34,940 | 36:36,780 | make anything believable for me, |
| 36:36,780 | 36:40,020 | it’s when they like record stuff. |
| 36:40,020 | 36:41,420 | – Yeah. |
| 36:41,420 | 36:43,540 | – Like where they’re like, what do they call it? |
| 36:43,540 | 36:44,380 | EMF? |
| 36:44,380 | 36:45,420 | – Yes. |
| 36:45,420 | 36:48,140 | EMF meters, like the electromagnetic fields. |
| 36:48,140 | 36:49,140 | – Yeah. |
| 36:49,140 | 36:51,740 | – I definitely think can be compelling, |
| 36:51,740 | 36:54,740 | but you also have to consider in modern– |
| 36:54,740 | 36:55,940 | – What are you around? |
| 36:55,940 | 36:59,420 | – Right, in modern day situations, |
| 36:59,420 | 37:03,020 | you are near power lines, you’ve got cords in the walls, |
| 37:03,020 | 37:06,340 | you’ve got microwaves and all sorts of stuff |
| 37:06,340 | 37:11,340 | that give off EMF that you can’t say it’s a ghost. |
| 37:11,340 | 37:14,240 | That being said, if you’re in some old-ass castle |
| 37:14,240 | 37:17,560 | in Germany that doesn’t have running power, |
| 37:17,560 | 37:19,240 | and you get an EMF reading, |
| 37:19,240 | 37:21,940 | I’m running. |
| 37:21,940 | 37:23,880 | – Thank you. |
| 37:23,880 | 37:24,720 | I have a thing for both of you. |
| 37:24,720 | 37:25,840 | – I’m not trusting it. |
| 37:25,840 | 37:28,640 | – There shouldn’t be wifi here. |
| 37:28,640 | 37:29,680 | – I think– – You just throw yourself |
| 37:29,680 | 37:30,800 | down a hill. – And I think it’s similar |
| 37:30,800 | 37:32,720 | with cold spots, especially if you’re in |
| 37:32,720 | 37:34,680 | like a modern enough house |
| 37:34,680 | 37:36,380 | So there’s like air conditioning. |
| 37:36,380 | 37:39,380 | (laughing) |
| 37:39,380 | 37:40,860 | – Spooky. – Ghost. |
| 37:40,860 | 37:43,140 | – I cannot say how many times I’ve been somewhere |
| 37:43,140 | 37:47,100 | and two different people have two completely different |
| 37:47,100 | 37:48,400 | temperature readings. |
| 37:48,400 | 37:52,040 | Because that’s just like how our bodies work. |
| 37:52,040 | 37:54,580 | Like you can’t say because you’ve got a shiver |
| 37:54,580 | 37:55,420 | that there’s a ghost. |
| 37:55,420 | 37:58,780 | Like, no, you’re scared and so your body dropped temperature. |
| 37:58,780 | 38:01,200 | Like, you know, that’s healthy skepticism. |
| 38:02,420 | 38:06,580 | Now, when they do like the, those like the temperature |
| 38:06,580 | 38:11,580 | cameras, filters, and there’s like a moving, you know, like. |
| 38:11,580 | 38:14,220 | – Ooh, the ones with the stick figures. |
| 38:14,220 | 38:15,040 | Have you seen those? |
| 38:15,040 | 38:15,880 | – No. |
| 38:15,880 | 38:17,300 | – What, no, you haven’t? |
| 38:17,300 | 38:21,400 | Wait, wait, be quiet. |
| 38:21,400 | 38:23,620 | Wait. |
| 38:23,620 | 38:26,900 | – Mabel, do you need to go outside? |
| 38:26,900 | 38:29,820 | All right, brief intermission while Reese looks us up. |
| 38:29,820 | 38:36,820 | Oh, perfect. |
| 38:36,820 | 38:49,040 | Oh, already the thumbnails getting me. |
| 38:49,040 | 38:50,040 | Is this a, um, |
| 38:50,040 | 38:51,040 | They’re good. |
| 38:51,040 | 38:52,500 | They’re called the SLS cameras. |
| 38:52,500 | 38:55,400 | I have not seen these, but this is terrifying. |
| 38:55,400 | 38:57,460 | What is it supposed to be? |
| 38:57,460 | 38:58,820 | Capturing a possible ghost with a |
| 38:58,820 | 39:00,860 | – Connect SLS camera. – SLS camera. |
| 39:00,860 | 39:03,780 | Alternative text humanoid bios near environment |
| 39:03,780 | 39:05,620 | similar to kinetic SLS camera |
| 39:05,620 | 39:08,340 | used by real paranormal investigators, |
| 39:08,340 | 39:13,340 | similar to the kinetic tracking in like VR, like video game. |
| 39:13,340 | 39:15,460 | – Interesting. |
| 39:15,460 | 39:20,060 | It’s very fun to see the way that people come up |
| 39:20,060 | 39:22,860 | with new techniques off of technology |
| 39:22,860 | 39:24,980 | because like, I mean, I’ve seen other uses |
| 39:24,980 | 39:26,860 | of these connect cameras where people are using them |
| 39:26,860 | 39:28,420 | to like power robots and shit. |
| 39:28,420 | 39:33,420 | But I have not seen Ghost Hunting with Xbox Kinect. |
| 39:33,420 | 39:36,620 | I have not, it’s a unique one for me. |
| 39:36,620 | 39:39,840 | – You just like strap an Xbox camera to yourself |
| 39:39,840 | 39:41,020 | and just go at it. |
| 39:41,020 | 39:48,460 | Those I like because the creepiness of the movement, |
| 39:48,460 | 39:51,360 | like somebody is standing there and you see there, |
| 39:51,360 | 39:53,160 | and then you see something that’s not there |
| 39:53,160 | 39:54,960 | and it also looks like a person. |
| 39:54,960 | 39:57,040 | – Yeah, ’cause you definitely like, |
| 39:57,040 | 40:00,360 | – I mean, it’s picking up on something |
| 40:00,360 | 40:02,720 | long enough for it to track. |
| 40:02,720 | 40:05,160 | – That has arms and legs. |
| 40:05,160 | 40:09,400 | – That has the right appendages to be picked up. |
| 40:09,400 | 40:10,240 | – Headless. |
| 40:10,240 | 40:11,840 | (both laughing) |
| 40:11,840 | 40:13,360 | I’ve seen one that was really creepy |
| 40:13,360 | 40:16,280 | that was like one of those, |
| 40:16,280 | 40:17,960 | but it was like down on all fours. |
| 40:17,960 | 40:20,720 | And I was like, no. – Oh, jeez, no thank you. |
| 40:20,720 | 40:21,560 | Because you can imagine– |
| 40:21,560 | 40:23,760 | – You get back up, you furry fuck. |
| 40:23,760 | 40:24,920 | – Right, I mean, I think Connect |
| 40:24,920 | 40:28,000 | to some kind of infrared something. |
| 40:28,000 | 40:28,840 | And you could see it like– |
| 40:28,840 | 40:30,840 | – So body heat, right? |
| 40:30,840 | 40:31,740 | – I think so. |
| 40:31,740 | 40:33,480 | Right? |
| 40:33,480 | 40:34,300 | Yeah. |
| 40:34,300 | 40:36,640 | You could see it picking, |
| 40:36,640 | 40:37,640 | no, I think it’s like, |
| 40:37,640 | 40:38,600 | isn’t it like, |
| 40:38,600 | 40:42,020 | it like tracks like the distance of light or something? |
| 40:42,020 | 40:45,760 | We know things. |
| 40:45,760 | 40:46,600 | – Yeah. |
| 40:46,600 | 40:48,160 | (laughing) |
| 40:48,160 | 40:50,080 | My professional opinion, you’re right. |
| 40:50,080 | 40:51,000 | – We’re experts. |
| 40:51,000 | 40:51,840 | – Yeah. |
| 40:51,840 | 40:54,100 | (laughing) |
| 40:54,100 | 40:58,780 | Stickman, stickman tracker. |
| 40:58,780 | 41:02,420 | Stickman coming to a scary movie theater near you. |
| 41:02,420 | 41:04,960 | He’s crawling toward you. |
| 41:04,960 | 41:07,780 | So that’s a that’s a thing. |
| 41:07,780 | 41:09,220 | So we have the EMS. |
| 41:09,220 | 41:10,900 | We have cold spots. |
| 41:10,900 | 41:16,460 | Infrared and or ultrasonic motor sensors detect possible anomalous movement within a given |
| 41:16,460 | 41:21,860 | area or to assist in creating a controlled environment where any human movement is detected. |
| 41:21,860 | 41:25,620 | air quality, Geiger counters, compasses, |
| 41:25,620 | 41:29,420 | all sorts of things that are potentially |
| 41:29,420 | 41:33,920 | not fans of ghosts. |
| 41:33,920 | 41:37,460 | I ran out of words. |
| 41:37,460 | 41:42,820 | And on that note, I think it’s time. |
| 41:42,820 | 41:45,720 | We bid adieu to you and you and you. |
| 41:45,720 | 41:48,100 | – Ghosts. |
| 41:48,100 | 41:49,180 | – That’s from the Sound of Music, |
| 41:49,180 | 41:50,780 | which does not have any ghosts in it, |
| 41:50,780 | 41:52,180 | that I know of. |
| 41:52,180 | 41:53,000 | – It doesn’t? |
| 41:53,000 | 41:56,620 | – No, but you know what would be an interesting topic? |
| 41:56,620 | 41:59,940 | Would be like when there’s like movies |
| 41:59,940 | 42:02,460 | and there’s like creepy behind the scenes stuff |
| 42:02,460 | 42:03,300 | that you don’t know about. |
| 42:03,300 | 42:04,120 | – Yeah, oh yeah, I love that. |
| 42:04,120 | 42:05,580 | – Like that dead person in, |
| 42:05,580 | 42:09,260 | not the sound of music, |
| 42:09,260 | 42:10,980 | in the dead person in, |
| 42:10,980 | 42:15,540 | you know, it’s like Dorothy. |
| 42:15,540 | 42:16,380 | – Wizard of Oz? |
| 42:16,380 | 42:18,660 | – Thank you. (laughs) |
| 42:18,660 | 42:20,660 | (LAUGHS) |
| 42:20,660 | 42:22,760 | Oh, my God. |
| 42:22,760 | 42:25,560 | The struggle is real. |
| 42:25,560 | 42:27,900 | -But we got there. -Thank you all so much. |
| 42:27,900 | 42:30,100 | -Wait, there’s a dead person? -Yeah, there’s– |
| 42:30,100 | 42:32,940 | -Oh, yeah, there sure is. -Oh, okay. |
| 42:32,940 | 42:34,700 | So… |
| 42:34,700 | 42:37,200 | Yep. |
| 42:37,200 | 42:39,680 | I’m gonna look it up later, I guess. |
| 42:39,680 | 42:42,580 | Let’s all look it up. There’s a dead person in… |
| 42:42,580 | 42:46,320 | -The Wizard of Oz. -Thank you. |
| 42:46,320 | 42:47,420 | (LAUGHS) |
| 42:48,020 | 42:49,020 | Oh, no. |
| 42:49,020 | 42:51,520 | All right, we have to wrap this up. |
| 42:51,520 | 42:53,120 | -So… -Your brain is melting. |
| 42:53,120 | 42:54,520 | -I can see it happening. -My brain! |
| 42:54,520 | 42:56,020 | Okay, bye, everyone. |
| 42:56,020 | 42:58,420 | -Bye. Thank you for joining us. -Bye. |
| 42:58,420 | 42:59,520 | You’re my favorite. |
| 42:59,520 | 43:01,320 | Go– Go ghost hunting. |
| 43:01,320 | 43:02,820 | -Especially you. -Tell us how it goes. |
| 43:02,820 | 43:04,120 | (BOTH LAUGHING) |
| 43:04,120 | 43:08,020 | -And, um… -We’re not responsible if you die. |
| 43:08,020 | 43:11,820 | Make sure to subscribe to A Killing Jar on YouTube. |
| 43:11,820 | 43:13,120 | Yes. |
| 43:13,120 | 43:14,720 | -Okay, bye. -Bye. |
| 43:14,720 | 43:17,120 | Oh, and by the way, next week, |
| 43:17,420 | 43:19,620 | We’re watching the thing. |
| 43:19,620 | 43:20,820 | – We’re watching the thing. |
| 43:20,820 | 43:23,340 | – Not just like the thing, like what are we watching? |
| 43:23,340 | 43:26,260 | Like we’re watching the movie, the thing. |
| 43:26,260 | 43:27,100 | – The thing. |
| 43:27,100 | 43:27,940 | (laughing) |
| 43:27,940 | 43:30,220 | John Carpenter’s The Thing. |
| 43:30,220 | 43:34,340 | – So you have a week to get it together, |
| 43:34,340 | 43:36,140 | figure it out, watch it somehow, |
| 43:36,140 | 43:40,380 | or just come back and hear us blabber on about it |
| 43:40,380 | 43:41,580 | without any context. |
| 43:41,580 | 43:44,380 | But we would rather you watch it ahead of time. |
| 43:44,380 | 43:49,780 | If you have a Peacock subscription, not sponsored, you can watch it on there. |
| 43:49,780 | 43:51,900 | Or it’s $4 to rent. |
| 43:51,900 | 43:55,700 | So or pirate it. |
| 43:55,700 | 43:56,700 | Whatever you need to do. |
| 43:56,700 | 43:57,700 | Whatever, whatever gets you there. |
| 43:57,700 | 43:58,700 | Okay, bye. |
| 43:58,700 | 43:58,700 | Bye. |
| 43:58,700 | 44:00,700 | Okay, bye. Bye. |
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