Reese and Jacob cross the globe to bring us spooky Ooky tales of haunted dolls from Annabelle and Chucky to Robert the Doll, Okiku, and the Island of Dolls. The two discuss the uncanny valley, accidentally drag Barbie, get an AI tarot reading, and tell Mabel the Podcast Dog that she’s the goodest girl.
Transcript
Alrighty.
Hi friends, I’m Jacob and that’s Reese and this is That Which Doesn’t Kill You.
A podcast where we speak about pop culture and dreadful things and each episode we end with,
Nope. And end each episode by setting some… What? Did I even write this?
Let’s try that again. Oh, okay. I understand.
Hi, friends. I’m Jacob and that’s Reese. And this is That Which Doesn’t Kill You,
a podcast where we speak about pop culture and dreadful things,
and end each episode by setting some intentions for the following week.
Today we’re talking about dolls. If you have any questions, comments or random thoughts you’d like
us to start a future episode with, send us a DM on Instagram at Argonauts.tube.
Yay. One other thing that we started last season that was kind of fun. We might as well,
or not last season, but when we did the New Year episode is we like chose a tarot card.
And so, as you know, I’ve been playing with some AI things lately.
Yes, you’ve been very into that.
It’s in the zeitgeist. So I was like, I might as well. And so I actually had an AI choose our card
for us today. And we drew the four of cups, which represents disappointment or boredom with the
status quo. It suggests that the querent may be feeling unfulfilled or dissatisfied with their
current situation and may be searching for something more meaningful. It also advises
the querent to consider their options carefully and not make any rash decisions.
I feel like this is directly talking about my issues with my car.
That does sound right. You are unfulfilled and dissatisfied.
I am so upset with car stuff right now. That is personal Reese things.
Damn it, personal Reese.
I need a new car.
So that feels relevant.
– Okay, okay.
– To me, what about you?
– I don’t think it’s necessarily,
yeah, this definitely feels like a you and not a me.
I feel like I’ve been doing pretty good.
– You’re like, my car runs fine.
– My car is great.
– My car?
Brunhild, she’s fine.
– Brunhild’s fine.
I’m very sorry that you’re having issues though,
that’s never fun.
– Oh well, car shopping is kind of exciting in its own way.
– Yeah, that’s the spirit.
I love that positive spin.
– I was being very positive
after the hectic day I had yesterday
and I still went to go see my show
and I still had a great time.
– Yes, and it was at the Apollo?
– What, no.
(laughing)
I went all the way to the Apollo.
Is that place still open?
– I’m sure it is.
Isn’t that where like super really famous people have played?
– Are you saying that the people you like
aren’t super famous?
– No, he’s not super famous.
– Oh, him specifically.
K-pop’s pretty popular.
– I don’t think he’s considered K-pop.
– Oh, I just assumed.
– Oh no.
– What does he make?
– It’s just like an indie music guitarist.
He’s like from LA, but his parents are Vietnamese.
– Oh.
– His name is Keshi.
– Damn, I was accidentally racist.
I was just making fun of you and I accidentally
Call the Vietnamese person keep this in
My bad
exposed
No, but I had a great time yesterday and even how hectic it was. So yeah, I was glad
okay, so
Dolls
They’ve been making them for long ass time. Yes. Okay. Okay. I’m with you
realistic looking ones.
Personally, my sister was a big fan
of the realistic looking ones.
– Yikes.
There’s that–
– She had a bunch in her room,
and when I would stay in her room,
I would sleep on the floor next to the bed,
and I would make sure it was nowhere
within viewing of the dolls.
Like, I just didn’t wanna see them.
But she loved her piles of dolls.
I don’t know where they are now.
-I don’t want to know. -That’s fair.
So, dolls,
yes, they’ve always seemed pretty creepy to me.
And when I was younger,
that Goosebumps,
that dummy.
-Yes. -That really creeped me out.
-Dummy is another one that’s– -Yes.
-It’s something about– -Ventriloquist.
-Yes. -That’s really–
It’s something about– And they’re 3D.
You know, there’s that trope of like,
like paintings where the eyes follow you and stuff.
– Oh yeah.
– But a 2D image can only be so realistic looking.
– It’s like a really intricate glass-eyed doll.
– Right, I’m like, no, the amount of effort put in
to make you look as real as possible,
but then you still know it’s not, though.
– Looking at them and they look like they could blink
or say anything at any moment, that’s terrifying.
It’s terrifying.
I always thought that, even when I was a kid.
You, um, you collect any dolls growing up?
No, I was.
I definitely had some stuffed animals.
I had, um.
I was never a doll person.
I wasn’t really a doll person.
I’m trying to think of, I mean, I had some like Batman’s, you know, um.
Those are dolls, right?
I mean, let’s be real.
Action figures are dolls.
We don’t have to name them something different so that boys will like them.
Action.
I’m like, and who’s saying Barbie’s not getting some action?
Okay, that came out wrong.
I heard it once I said it, I’m sorry.
– I’m going on a face journey right now.
What was that?
– My phone, how dare it?
– So you played with?
– Yeah, I definitely had some fun with it.
I definitely was more of a stuffed animal kid.
But I think– – I know I always liked
my plushies.
– I think, yeah, yeah.
Like I think I’ve always been a little like,
– No, I don’t like that.
Like, that’s a little creepy.
Anything that’s like humanoid, but like not a human.
Don’t trust it. – Well, and you–
– I mean, clowns.
– Another thing I didn’t like growing up,
I never watched the Chucky movies
because that really scared me.
You like that now.
– Yeah.
I never, so I used to think Chucky was stupid.
Like, I never, ’cause I didn’t know anything about it.
And it was the kind of thing where like the movies,
the horror movies that I was watching when I was younger
were not Chucky.
– Not that, yeah.
– And Chucky is like a very specific kind of like humor.
Whereas–
– I never thought it would be,
it makes sense when I think about it,
but it didn’t occur to me that, yeah,
that could be a humorous concept.
– Yeah, it’s like a good like horror comedy.
– Yes.
– But back in the day, I mean, when I was like a child,
child, I was watching classic horror kind of stuff
like from like the 80s and 90s, but–
You’re so sophisticated.
– Are you dragging me right now?
– (laughs) No!
– I’m so confused.
(both laughing)
– My tone did seem like that, but I wasn’t.
– I was very confused.
– I wasn’t.
– You’re so sophisticated.
– That’s what you think, right?
No, I didn’t start watching a lot of horror stuff
until I was older, so what am I to say?
– Yeah.
– I was a dark little.
– So you really, you like Chucky.
– I do like Chucky now.
I never really gave it a chance.
And then I liked the TV show.
And the only reason I watched the TV show
was because I knew the main character was gay
and I gotta support the gays.
– Yes.
– Even if the actors are straight.
I still gotta support them.
– Yes.
– And the founder, not the founder, the founder.
– The founding father.
– The founding father of Chucky is gay.
So he’s the one I really want.
And he’s like, now he’s like the main director
and he’s a showrunner and he’s always been
like the main writer.
And so I’ve always wanted to support him.
Once I found out he was a homosexual,
I was like, yeah, I wanna support that guy.
And then I watched it and I was like,
damn, yeah, this is pretty gay.
– Well, when you talk about liking it,
it makes me, it’s one of those things
that I feel like I should watch one of these days
just ’cause I was so afraid of it as a kid,
but I’m obviously, I don’t think that way anymore.
And it seems like it would be really fun.
And I really like fun horror. – That’s the thing is,
when you can come to it as fun horror,
it makes a lot more sense.
– And I love that that’s basically a genre, fun horror.
– Exactly.
And you contrast that with something like “It,”
where I used to be terrified of clowns,
and that movie did not help.
‘Cause even though he’s cracking jokes,
like menacing jokes. It’s like if you’re like abuser is making jokes at you, it’s not gonna
be funny to you. Yeah, you’re like, you know what? That was a banger joke probably, but
I’m still afraid. Right. But if Chucky makes a joke at me, I’m like, you’re about to murder
me but that was kind of funny. You’re a doll. There’s like, and you know, something about
the fact that it’s like dolls are, I mean, for the most part, children’s toys. Yes. You
You know what I mean?
It gives that extra kind of like fear
of like harming children specifically
and or like being related.
Children are creepy.
– Yes, children are creepy on their own.
– They be seeing shit, they be talking about shit.
They be saying like,
“Grandmother visited me last night from the astral plane.”
And I’m like, “No.”
– And I’m like, “You’re four, please stop.”
– Stop it right now.
– Another thing about like the history of dolls
is that there is history of them being,
I guess like conduits for energy.
– Conduits is a good word.
– And is that, did I use that word correctly?
– Yeah, that was great, that was beautiful.
– So if anything, it really solidified to me
like how empty these vessels are
that you can put energy in it
and make it into something else.
like those witch puppets you were talking about.
Or even like voodoo dolls, things like that.
And so in my mind when I read about these stories
of dolls being haunted by something,
I’m like that makes perfectly good sense.
Because these things are empty
and then you can put something in it.
– It’s like a hermit crab.
– Yeah.
– Like a spiritual hermit crab.
You’re just like, I’m crawling around.
I gotta find a humanoid body.
And this is the closest one I can find.
– It’s got arms, it got legs.
– It’s got a little face, raggedy,
and she got those little blush marks.
– Yes, I’m a blushing demon.
– I’m jumping in there.
(laughing)
– Speaking of movies, I really liked
when I was starting to get into horror more,
the Conjuring movies and the Annabelle movies.
watched all of those. Very scary, but just like fun. I know they’re like, you know, jump
scare, you know, Hollywood movies.
Which I think is fine.
I was gonna say it is done. I mean, to my untrained eye when it came to horror at the
time. It was fun. I loved it. I was like, oh my god. And then they made the Raggedy
Raggedy Ann doll, because I think I remember talking about it with you. The Raggedy Ann
doll was originally how Annabelle, how she looked, which is scary in itself. It’s a little
button. It looks more innocent. And then they have like this.
It’s got that like craftsman kind of like, oh, someone’s mother sewed this on the farm.
Like there’s some extra, you know, yarn and a piece of cloth.
Great depression, Dust Bowl aesthetic looking ass.
– Yeah, depression core.
Oh God, my legs.
– You don’t have legs.
– Oh, I have two legs.
Okay, so one of the doll stories
that I’d never heard of when we first looked this up
was a doll named Okiku.
The legend goes in the early 1900s, a girl named Okiku from Hokkaido was gifted a doll
from her brother, Eikichi Suzuki. The doll was named Okiku because of the girl. That was her name.
Sorry. I did not like that noise. I will be editing that out.
I can’t do it again.
So she was treating the doll like a, you know, a little sister. She was like feeding it.
That she named after herself?
And so I think they, it sounds to me that they named the doll after she…
Oh, afterwards.
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah, would you name a doll?
I didn’t have a name before. Not Jacob.
Your name’s not Batman.
I actually used to call my Batman, Batman.
Really?
Go figure.
Not Jacob.
Wait, this is a this is a side
note because we’re just everywhere.
I was talking to Vivian yesterday
about Barbies and we
were talking.
Dolls, not a side note.
Or a good side note.
Yes.
Because we were talking about she
said there was a particular
like doll that she wanted
that had like Gigi’s skin tone.
Like she wants her to have these
dolls that show because she
she was telling me, I hope this is
OK for me to talk about Vivian.
I think it’s fine.
– When she was growing up,
she only had the white Barbie dolls.
When I was growing up,
when people would gift me a Barbie doll,
there was a Hispanic one named Teresa.
It was like one of Barbie’s friends.
And I was just like, oh yeah.
Like Vivian was telling me she didn’t know
that there were other colors of Barbies.
I’m like, I had Teresa.
Teresa means Hispanic.
– Everyone wants to be Barbie.
So why can’t Barbie herself come
and all the, all the, is that offensive?
I don’t know.
I’m like, ’cause that’s like the name one.
– I liked Teresa.
– You know what I mean?
– She was the main one to me.
I think it just depends on like how it’s–
– I like that, yeah.
– ‘Cause I didn’t have Barbie dolls or Ken’s.
I had Teresa and, I don’t know,
an action figure that they were married and beep, beep, beep.
– What action figure?
G.I. Joe.
– I don’t remember.
– Huh?
– G.I. Joe.
– No, I had one of those stretchy guys.
– I did not have that.
– I don’t know what that is. – What is it called?
It was a stretchy man.
– Oh.
Tell me more.
– No.
I can’t remember what else.
I remember I had lots of Theresa’s.
It was Theresa and her like five clones, all named Theresa.
– You had six different Theresa’s?
– I had a bunch ’cause people would just
buy me just the Theresa.
– That’s fair.
I did not have enough family members
to be buying me multiples of toys, so.
When I was younger, we were closer
with my mom’s side of the family
and I had way more aunts and uncles over there.
All of the toys, even if they were all the same thing.
Thank you.
– Oh, that’s kind of cool though,
’cause then if you like rip the hair off of one
and make it like the scary dolls with the–
– Yeah, thanks LA fam.
So, I don’t know what Okiku called her doll.
People called it Okiku after her passing.
So she ended up dying very young due to malaria.
And then it is said that the little girl
died gasping for air in pain and afraid
all the while holding her doll really tight.
So they believe that because of that traumatic
painful death that her spirit perhaps moved into this doll. And the most notable thing
about this doll is that it’s allegedly its hair grows and that it is real human hair.
And so it’s now at a temple in Japan where monks take care of it and actually cut its
hair.
I know.
I don’t like it.
Despite the fact that several scientists and skeptics have tried to explain the phenomenon
of the doll’s hair growing, the legend continues to fascinate.
Ooh, okay, fascinate.
Fascinating.
I feel like you would be able to scientifically prove
if the hair is growing by just putting a camera on it.
But in watching.
So I wonder, I’m like, obviously then in that case,
the monks would have to be complicit
in keeping up the ruse if there’s a ruse going on.
– Well, apparently the doll is still there to this day.
And then, allegedly.
– Is it like on display or is it like being hidden
in a back room somewhere?
– It’s more, from what I read, it’s more like,
like you can go see it but they don’t want you
to get close or touch it or like disturb it.
– Convenient. – I know.
But when I read that, I was thinking,
weren’t probably most of the dolls in that time
or even earlier, made from human hair.
– That’s true.
When was this again?
– In the early 1900s.
– Okay, okay.
– I’m sure they did.
Even if not human hair, maybe horse hair or something.
So there’s people like, it’s real human hair.
I’m like, hmm.
– That’s a good point.
– And that it’s also said that the doll,
you know, move stuff around in the temple
and causes people near it to have nightmares
and things like that.
That was one I definitely did not know about
and I thought was very interesting.
– Yeah, no, that is very interesting.
And I do think, I believe like the nightmare thing
’cause I think there’s like a bit
of a power of suggestion thing.
Did you ever watch “The Skeleton Key”?
– No, but I know–
– It wasn’t really like a big liked movie,
but the kind of core concept is that magic only works
if you believe in it, which I think is,
in the real world, has like a lot
of very interesting connotations.
– World War.
– The World War, because it’s kind of true.
Like if you believe something’s haunted,
it’s gonna haunt you, because you believe that it is.
If you’re like a huge skeptic and you don’t believe anything,
you’re not gonna like–
– No. – And hear a noise
and be like, oh, it’s the doll I don’t believe is haunted.
– Exactly, no, I completely believe that.
I’m like, if you’re someone who, yeah, believes in things,
you’re going to notice stuff maybe like a non-believer
wouldn’t notice, and that’s gonna mean something to you.
You will have a experience or whatever,
whereas someone who is skeptic is like,
that’s just the wind, and I will move on.
So yeah, I completely believe that.
– The power of suggestion in the uncanny valley.
– I did not know much about this next doll,
Robert the doll, but it’s so popular.
– Yes.
– Tell me what you know, or tell me what happened.
– I have a kind of stupid story about this.
So when I was at a previous employer,
(laughing)
One of the other managers and I told one of our associates,
who’s this older woman, she’s probably in her 60s maybe,
about Robert the doll, and showed her photos,
for Google photos, right?
And we’re just sitting in the back room, just talking.
And so we’re telling her, “Oh yeah, there’s Robert the doll,
“he’s on display, he has his own room,
“and he’s taken care of,
“and people believe he’s haunted and stuff.”
And she, like a week later, she came to us and was like,
“I had a dream.
Robert the doll came to me and he touched me.”
And we were just like, “What?”
– What?
– I did not know you were gonna take it there.
– Whoa.
– What?
– And so, every time I think–
– Infiltrated her dreams.
– Literally, so every time I think of Robert the doll,
I think of him traveling through Google image search
-Too hot, my old co-worker. -Too hot.
[laughter]
-You know. -Good for him.
You got to have hobbies.
Whoa, wait, like,
touch their leg, I’m going to kill you.
-Oh, a strangle? -Yes.
I didn’t know what that hand motion was.
-I was very confused. -Oh, sorry.
-I’m allowed to explain myself. -Touch her however you want.
[laughter]
– I assume in a spooky way.
– He booped her.
– He boop boop.
– He did a spook boop.
– A spook boop.
(laughing)
Next week on Spook Boop.
– Aw.
Our next podcast for children.
(laughing)
– Spook boop.
Robert the doll is said to have caused car accidents,
broken bones, and other misfortunes
to those who disrespect it.
Maybe she disrespected him after we told her his tale.
– Yeah, she went home and started a picture of him.
I was like, “Fuck you.” – Yeah, and I was like,
“He’s not real.” – “Stupid.”
And now he lives in Florida.
Good for him.
– Yeah, like everything else bad in this world,
straight to Florida.
– Yes.
The last one I have is the Island of the Dolls
located in Xochimilco, Mexico.
– Oh, I don’t know anything about this.
– So from what I remember,
so I saw Buzzfeed Supernatural video about it.
So there was this guy who lived on this island,
this man-made island that was created in Mexico
and he was tending to his crops one day
and he saw a girl that had drowned near his island,
and he was sad that he couldn’t save her,
knew what happened, so he buried her on the island.
And then–
– Where were her parents?
– She just went for a swim.
– Damn.
– And then apparently either the next day
or sometime soon after, a doll was found
where she had drowned.
So he thought that the dolls were representative of her.
So he would collect dolls and people would come
to the island to trade dolls for produce
that he grew on the island.
Yeah, and so it ended up just being
this whole big collection of dolls
throughout the entire island.
Dolls, dolls, dolls, dolls, dolls, dolls.
– And this was just some random girl?
– Mm-hmm.
– No, I’m uncomfortable.
– You know what was worse? – Multiple assets.
If it was like, oh yeah, his daughter drowned,
I’d be like, damn, okay, he’s trying to get in touch
with his daughter. – It was a rando.
– Some rando, like, you’re a little too obsessed
with this body you found. – This rando buried her.
When I was watching the video,
the part that I remembered and scared me the most
was how many spiders there were on the island.
There’s like a whole segment of them trying to like
leave the island and they have to go under
all these things and these spiders everywhere.
– You mean the spiders were trying to leave the island.
(laughing)
No, leave them there.
– You stay there with it,
like they would come out of the dolls and stuff.
– No, no. – It was super bad.
– No, thank you.
– It was all kinds of little dolls
and there was like a Mickey Mouse one and a gorilla one.
– Interesting.
– So.
– Yikes.
I hate that, I hate it.
– Apparently, like the guy’s nephew would,
like lives at the island now and like talks about
what he knows from when his uncle was alive.
– Yeah.
– He said that his uncle used to tell him
like the dolls will turn to each other
-and you start whispering. -Yikes.
-Yeah. -I’m against it.
-That’s creepy, right? -Kind of feel like he brought this on himself.
I mean, you’re gonna bring that much on the island?
Maybe he just had, like, a super hyper fixation
that lasted his entire life.
-He just was like… -That’s what it sounds like.
“I am obsessed with these dolls. Very cute.”
Are you– I’m sorry, are you insinuating that he, like,
made up a story about a dead girl so that people would bring him dolls?
Yeah.
Okay.
He was just like, “Damn, nobody’s going to give me a doll because I’m a grown man.”
Yeah.
I’m a grown old man on an island.
And so no one’s going to do that.
So I need to make up a story about a tiny dead child so that people will bring the tiny
dead child dolls.
Yeah.
They’ll bring offerings of the dolls to her, but in fact, it will be me who wants the dolls.
It was me all along.
All along.
I like that theory.
(laughing)
– Actually, that reminds me, it’s actually very similar.
I had a child die in my backyard
and that child really loved Oreos.
So if everyone could just bring me Oreos for the child
who I buried in my backyard because they died there.
– Yeah, I had nothing to do with it.
– Nothing to do with me.
No spiders involved in these Oreos, please.
– No, no spider Oreos.
– No spider, no sporeos.
(laughing)
– Stop.
That wasn’t good.
And we both did it.
(laughing)
And it wasn’t good.
– It was so stupid.
(laughing)
– I was really following you for a moment.
I was just like, uh-huh.
– Yeah.
– That in the backyard?
This one here?
– This one here.
– Oreos?
– Oreos.
– Spire.
– Spireos.
– Spireos.
(laughing)
– That’s my– – Dolls are creepy.
– They are– – End of discussion.
– Don’t own any.
Don’t look at one.
Oh, we haven’t seen Megan.
– We haven’t seen Megan.
That’s the closure to this story.
We don’t know if this Robert,
Ro, Robert. – Robert.
– Robert the doll.
(laughing)
(laughing)
– Robert, who’s Robert?
I love that so much.
– It’s the remake to Robert the doll.
It’s just Robert the doll.
– Mm-hmm.
(laughing)
Sounds like a knockoff one.
– We’ll see Megan eventually.
Robot dolls, it’s like a great, it’s like a good update.
And I think it’s a lot better for it to be Megan
than when they tried to reboot Chucky
’cause they tried to reboot Chucky
without the original founder on board.
I keep saying founder, without the original writer.
– Founding father.
– Founding father.
And that’s just crummy.
– Did you ever see Ex Machina?
– Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
So robot episode when?
– Robots.
We’ll be back with our intentions in just a minute.
Why’d she do that?
She knows, she knows what she’s doing.
She does that to me and I’m like, you’re right.
I am worthless and I must do whatever you tell me.
– She’s like, have you ever thought about–
– My face.
(laughing)
– We get like extra giggly when we’re drinking.
(laughing)
It’s funny, I like it.
We should only drink while recording.
– Honestly.
Yeah, it makes everything a little more loosey goosey.
All right.
Um, so intentions for the week.
Yes.
First off, I want to suggest to the three friends of ours who listen to our podcast.
Yes.
Every week, whenever you want, DM us, send us an intention of your own.
We want to be able to like share other people’s intentions out into the universe as well.
Yes.
So either one of our personal ones or are going to start to send us an intention.
Let us know what you want to do for the week.
Let us know what you’re trying to manifest.
let us know what you wanna happen.
– Friends tell us things.
– Let’s crowdfund some mysticism here
and make what are wants realities.
– Go fund me with thoughts.
– Yes.
– Okay, I like that.
– All right, beautiful.
For me, my intention for this week–
– Is to focus, you fuck.
– Fucking focus.
(laughing)
I, you know, I’ve
I’ve been very blessed to have people who want me around
and to help them things and to be involved
in community and everything.
– That’s so sweet.
– But I happen to have a little bit of extra time this week
that I can actually devote to things like school.
So I really wanna be able, I just wanna like buckle down,
get some stuff done ahead of time
so that everything’s a little less like stressful.
and then that gives me more time to work on this
or work on my personal branding.
I’d like to get back into videos and stuff.
All these things I wanna do,
I don’t know how people have time.
But Lord knows I just need to cinch it together.
– Yes.
– So that’s my intention for the week.
– I like it, very well, very well done.
My intention, and I’m gonna go ahead and say specific
because I’m gonna make it happen.
– Yes.
– I’m gonna, I’m currently reading American Psycho.
– Yeah, you are.
– I’m gonna finish it and I’m going to basically
give y’all a book report.
– Okay.
– Of between the movie and the book.
– Okay, so that’ll be what, like two episodes from now?
– Yeah, I mean, I’m reading a little bit of it every night.
It’s really, it’s hard to put down.
I don’t know what called me to start reading it,
but I just bought it and I’m reading it and I’m into it.
And I’ve never seen the movie.
– We should definitely, maybe instead of the one movie
we were gonna watch, maybe we’ll watch that when you’re done.
– Okay. – Like next week maybe,
if we find time.
– I will try and finish reading.
– Yeah, I mean, whenever, whenever.
– I’m like one fourth of the way through.
– Oh, okay, so in a couple weeks, at some point,
you’ll be done, we’ll watch the movie.
but I do want to do it. – And we’ll make that
an episode, we can discuss.
– Yes, and ’cause you gave me that idea
and that sounds awesome.
Me just telling you that I was reading.
– Yes, book report.
– Book club.
– Yes, all right, so everyone better start reading
and then you can be prepared when that episode comes out.
– Or if you don’t like reading, just watch the movie
and I’ll tell you about the book.
– There we go, there we go.
I’m really interested to see what the differences are.
– Me too. – So I’ve never read it,
but I’ve watched it, and now you haven’t watched it,
but you’re reading it.
So I think when you do finally watch it,
it’ll be interesting to see how somebody
who’s never read the book
versus somebody who read the book first.
– Yes, yes. – That crossover,
that’ll be interesting.
– And you know, maybe it could also be a thing
of some books that were made into movies.
I’d like to see what the differences are.
Oh, it’s super interesting how, like, what decisions they have to make to, like, cut
down on time or sometimes they make changes because they’re like, “Well, that book ended
stupidly so I don’t want to end it that way.”
Yeah.
I’m like, “I’m interested to see what the changes are.”
So, we’ve said our intentions.
Yes.
Universe, hear our cries or whatever.
Yeah, hear our cries or whatever.
Woo!
Woo!
All right, guys, let us know what your intentions are.
And until next week, I’ve been Jacob.
I’ve been Reese.
And that’s been Mabel.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
Goodbye!
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