Our brand new series is That Witch Doesn’t Kill You. Jacob and Reese are back and sporting new, cozy autumn threads to talk about the best holiday in the history of holidays, Halloween. We talk costume trauma, fall harvests, bloody noses, classic scary games and movies, and fear itself.  Join us next week to explore more spine-tingling topics… if you dare…  

In today’s podcast, my co-host and I dove deep into the world of horror video games, focusing primarily on the terrifying experiences they provide. We laughed, reminisced, and explored the unique aspects of games like “P.T.”, a playable trailer for the “Silent Hill” series, and “Dead Space”, an engrossing game filled with nightmarish imagery.

We started by reflecting on how our base instincts influence our reactions to horror, leading us into a lively discussion about our favorite scary video games. I shared my love for “Dead Space”, which blends space and zombies into a thrilling adventure. My co-host helped describe the experience for non-gamers, as we compared older horror films to the current generation of interactive terror.

Our conversation took a fascinating turn when we analyzed “P.T.”, which was intended to tease a new “Silent Hill” but ended up marking a departure for its creator. The first-person perspective and looping, puzzling hallways gave it an unsettlingly realistic touch. We also discussed the chilling details found in the game, like a fetus in a sink, and the terrifying cycle where each pass through the hallway would bring something new and horrifying.

Switching gears, we delved into the “Alien” series and the game “Alien Isolation”. My co-host admitted to being unable to play it due to the stress, while I revealed my plans for an alien-themed tattoo.

Our discussion rounded off with more insights into “Dead Space”, a game I personally enjoyed. We explored its intense gameplay, gruesome death scenes, and terrifying visuals. We even entertained the idea of becoming streamers, and delve into all sorts of Halloween haunts.

Transcript

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00:00,000	00:02,580	(upbeat music)
00:02,580	00:07,160	– Testing. – There we go.
00:07,160	00:08,720	There we go.
00:08,720	00:11,560	All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the podcast.
00:11,560	00:14,680	– Welcome for the first time and only the first time.
00:14,680	00:17,200	– We have never recorded this 18 times in a row yet.
00:17,200	00:20,600	– No, this was the first, the best.
00:20,600	00:23,640	– We’ve had a series of technical difficulties.
00:23,640	00:24,760	– I don’t know what you’re talking about.
00:24,760	00:26,360	No, we have not.
00:26,360	00:28,440	– You’re right, I’m a deranged idiot.
00:28,440	00:31,400	You have been perfect on the get go.
00:31,400	00:33,700	– Oh, it’s so true. – And I will not take
00:33,700	00:34,880	any excuses. – Oh, thank God.
00:34,880	00:35,940	I was so worried.
00:35,940	00:38,280	– Welcome back.
00:38,280	00:39,280	– Thank you, welcome back.
00:39,280	00:40,520	Hi, my name is Jacob. – Thank you.
00:40,520	00:41,960	Hi, I’m Reese.
00:41,960	00:43,520	– This is our podcast.
00:43,520	00:44,360	– Jacob and Reese.
00:44,360	00:47,300	(both laughing)
00:47,300	00:52,040	– Those of you who are our friends and coworkers
00:52,040	00:56,480	that are followed for the first 10 episodes
00:56,480	00:58,720	– People notice some changes.
00:58,720	00:59,680	– Yes.
00:59,680	01:00,860	– Conceptually.
01:00,860	01:05,160	We just want the podcast to be more fun.
01:05,160	01:07,280	I don’t care as much.
01:07,280	01:10,280	I just wanna talk with my friend about like aliens and shit.
01:10,280	01:13,080	– Yes.
01:13,080	01:15,320	– We do have a YouTube channel.
01:15,320	01:20,000	– Beautifully edited by Jacob.
01:20,000	01:20,840	– Hardly.
01:20,840	01:24,320	Thrown together with stitches.
01:24,320	01:25,680	– Talented.
01:25,680	01:29,120	-Sexy. -Keep going.
01:29,120	01:33,120	You’re like, you don’t compliment.
01:33,120	01:35,120	Off recording.
01:35,120	01:36,120	Today.
01:36,120	01:41,280	-Today. -On That Which Doesn’t Kill You.
01:41,280	01:43,480	Which is the new name for our podcast.
01:43,480	01:45,560	We’re 10 episodes in and we’re switching it up.
01:45,560	01:47,600	Yeah, so we can do what we want.
01:47,600	01:49,560	Yeah, because nobody listens anyway.
01:49,560	01:57,960	Well, we have been hard at work for the last couple of hours on a little YouTube project.
01:57,960	02:00,040	And I think we’re going a little crazy.
02:00,040	02:02,440	But I appreciate that we are both like, you know what?
02:02,440	02:04,960	No, let’s get this frickin podcast done.
02:04,960	02:09,900	Yeah, because we said we were going to be here for spooky season and it is October 14.
02:09,900	02:12,520	So we got to we got to get in gear.
02:12,520	02:13,520	Yes.
02:13,520	02:15,360	I love spooky.
02:15,360	02:18,480	Speaking of the spook, what is Halloween known for?
02:18,480	02:19,480	Decorations.
02:19,480	02:20,800	That’s it.
02:20,800	02:24,480	Those those those old Celts
02:24,480	02:26,200	like the first day.
02:26,200	02:27,200	That’s true.
02:27,200	02:29,240	Decorating, celebrating.
02:29,240	02:30,640	OK. Yes.
02:30,640	02:32,340	Yes. The harvest.
02:32,340	02:33,560	Yes.
02:33,560	02:36,080	Candy. Now, nowadays, things
02:36,080	02:37,680	Hallmark. I don’t know if I’m going to
02:37,680	02:38,680	do with that.
02:38,680	02:39,720	Hershey.
02:39,720	02:41,400	Mars. Her.
02:41,400	02:42,920	She. She.
02:42,920	02:44,800	They.
02:44,800	02:47,600	I think of decorations.
02:47,600	02:55,320	I like that. I want to bring out my pumpkins. Yes. And a lot of that. I mean, there’s the
02:55,320	03:02,120	way that like they used to be so much scarier, like costumes, decorations, and a lot of it’s
03:02,120	03:08,440	because it was like handmade by like potato farmers. Like it was naturally going to be
03:08,440	03:13,740	a little spookier. They know how to create some freaky shit. You know, I think we need
03:13,740	03:17,540	to get back into where’s the handcrafted Halloween?
03:17,540	03:20,080	– Now it’s for kids.
03:20,080	03:22,020	– What?
03:22,020	03:23,980	– Now the holidays just for kids.
03:23,980	03:25,080	– Which is disgusting.
03:25,080	03:27,420	How dare you take this from me?
03:27,420	03:29,300	– I don’t think it’s bad that it’s for kids.
03:29,300	03:33,580	I’m saying it’s mostly geared towards kids.
03:33,580	03:34,780	– I don’t like it.
03:34,780	03:35,620	– So.
03:35,620	03:37,500	– It’s a pagan holiday meant to celebrate
03:37,500	03:39,780	the end of the harvest and the passing
03:39,780	03:44,420	of our fair weather friends into the afterlife.
03:44,420	03:45,540	– We harvest the kids.
03:45,540	03:49,180	– Children of the corn.
03:49,180	03:50,020	– Yep.
03:50,020	03:51,020	Horror movies.
03:51,020	03:51,860	– Horror movies.
03:51,860	03:53,180	– Horror movies.
03:53,180	03:56,660	– Our first podcast back where we’re like,
03:56,660	03:58,260	we’re just gonna talk about things we like
03:58,260	04:01,700	and it’s just like hectic insanity.
04:01,700	04:05,420	– This feels pretty par for the course.
04:05,420	04:06,780	– Yeah, we’ll figure it out.
04:06,780	04:08,820	We’ll edit it together.
04:08,820	04:10,420	Much like Frankenstein.
04:10,420	04:14,420	I don’t do linear thinking.
04:14,420	04:15,460	No. Normally.
04:15,460	04:18,180	If you’re here for linear thinking, go to our channel.
04:18,180	04:19,940	That’s yes. That’s what that’s for.
04:19,940	04:23,700	This is bouncing wherever our brains take us.
04:23,700	04:25,620	Chaotic minds at work here.
04:25,620	04:27,780	Chaotic good.
04:27,780	04:30,260	Chaotic.
04:34,260	04:39,620	I have definitely been partaking in the horror movie excursions.
04:39,620	04:40,700	Yes.
04:40,700	04:42,620	I’ve been watching all of the Chucky movies.
04:42,620	04:47,300	I think once the season of the show is over,
04:47,300	04:53,020	by that point, I will hopefully have made you watch at least one Chucky movie
04:53,020	04:56,060	so that we could do a podcast for Chucky.
04:56,060	05:00,500	-OK, yes. -A spoiler-free Chucky finale celebration.
05:00,500	05:03,500	Maybe even like killer dolls in general.
05:03,580	05:06,000	I feel like that is something we can both pull a lot from.
05:06,000	05:08,620	Well, now they’re just they’re making more.
05:08,620	05:10,000	You saw that trailer.
05:10,000	05:11,340	I’m so excited.
05:11,340	05:12,580	We’ll hold off on that.
05:12,580	05:16,180	We’ll talk about that sometime November, December.
05:16,180	05:19,880	OK, but we got some things to look forward to.
05:19,880	05:24,100	I think horror movies are definitely my favorite part of Halloween,
05:24,100	05:26,140	and they kind of always have been.
05:26,140	05:27,600	I had to grow into that.
05:27,600	05:30,440	Yeah, I didn’t.
05:31,860	05:36,940	start watching horror movies until probably.
05:36,940	05:40,040	I must say, like a little bit before the pandemic.
05:40,040	05:41,540	Yeah, no, for sure.
05:41,540	05:44,680	I remember being like always grouping together.
05:44,680	05:46,180	It’s like a.
05:46,180	05:47,600	Yeah, FaceTime movie.
05:47,600	05:51,840	Finally, getting you to watch horror movies was like a highlight of my life.
05:51,840	05:54,020	I was like, I know millions of people are dying,
05:54,020	05:57,160	but Reese is finally watching horror movies.
05:57,160	05:59,460	Wasn’t it some good is coming out of this?
05:59,520	06:03,160	It was a big change as long as you’ve known me.
06:03,160	06:05,320	I’ve been very squeamish with horror movies.
06:05,320	06:10,200	Which is so funny to me, because your whole like metal aesthetic,
06:10,200	06:14,500	your whole life, the video games we would play.
06:14,500	06:17,440	Yes. You’re all the let’s plays of horror games that you watch.
06:17,440	06:20,500	Yes. Which I had been always totally fine with.
06:20,500	06:23,880	But for some reason, horror movies, I couldn’t do it really.
06:23,880	06:26,640	And I’m like the opposite.
06:26,640	06:28,180	It’s like horror video games.
06:28,180	06:31,580	I’m watching that stuff and I’m like, this is not a crafted narrative.
06:31,580	06:33,460	Anything could happen at any moment.
06:33,460	06:36,300	Some see that felt more controlled to me.
06:36,300	06:38,780	I was like, OK, this is a controlled thing.
06:38,780	06:41,020	I can choose to.
06:41,020	06:43,980	Change this.
06:43,980	06:48,300	If it’s a movie, it’s like that’s I’m removed from that narrative.
06:48,300	06:50,180	I’m just watching it happen.
06:50,180	06:51,900	It gave me so much anxiety.
06:51,900	06:52,980	Now I love it.
06:52,980	06:56,100	Maybe it’s like the trauma of my history that I’m just like,
06:56,500	07:00,900	“This is a narrative, nothing can happen to me.
07:00,900	07:03,100	“That can’t happen in the real world.”
07:03,100	07:06,980	– I watched, I remember watching horror movies,
07:06,980	07:10,940	like even on TV or like with my dad when I was younger.
07:10,940	07:13,940	Like “The Freddy Cougar”, “Halloween”,
07:13,940	07:15,700	I watched “Blair Witch Project”.
07:15,700	07:17,740	– A lot of those, those like classic,
07:17,740	07:20,180	like 70s, 80s horror movies,
07:20,180	07:21,660	the ones that my mother would have been watching
07:21,660	07:23,700	when she was like, it’s new.
07:23,700	07:25,300	We would watch those together.
07:25,300	07:28,380	It was like those and like John Hughes films
07:28,380	07:30,100	were like the few– – Really?
07:30,100	07:32,460	– The few things we could watch together
07:32,460	07:34,820	that we were both happy to watch.
07:34,820	07:36,300	– Okay.
07:36,300	07:38,100	– And we would get along with that.
07:38,100	07:39,660	So I mean, we had a very…
07:39,660	07:41,940	– Yeah.
07:41,940	07:44,940	– Both sides were very, you know, what’s the word?
07:44,940	07:49,020	I’m like, what’s a word I can pronounce?
07:49,020	07:51,780	(both laughing)
07:51,780	07:53,980	tortured tortured souls were
07:53,980	08:01,020	We’re in the mix there, you know, but having something that we could connect with. Mm-hmm. I
08:01,020	08:08,840	Think inspired a lot of why I I do like the certain horror movies that I do like
08:08,840	08:15,820	You know things I love more more psychological like those are the ones that she would be like more willing to I didn’t get into
08:15,820	08:20,580	Gore and like more like slasher kind of things until I was older
08:20,780	08:21,620	– Okay.
08:21,620	08:23,360	– Even though I was never squeamish.
08:23,360	08:28,180	It just, it wasn’t the movies that I was watching with her
08:28,180	08:30,080	that we got along with, you know what I mean?
08:30,080	08:31,340	And even I would get in,
08:31,340	08:34,540	I remember getting annoyed as a teenager,
08:34,540	08:36,840	once the Halloween season was over,
08:36,840	08:41,840	and she would like, she would like drop that interest.
08:41,840	08:42,680	– Okay.
08:42,680	08:44,200	– I would be so annoyed ’cause I’d be like,
08:44,200	08:45,600	but I still wanna watch.
08:45,600	08:46,880	– Yeah, like.
08:46,880	08:48,200	– I wanna see the ghost.
08:48,200	08:50,600	– Yeah, there’s things were happening.
08:50,600	08:52,640	– Yeah, and of course, I’ve always been very
08:52,640	08:54,080	like spiritually minded.
08:54,080	08:59,360	Other than having “Witch” in the title podcast,
08:59,360	09:02,120	it’s not something I necessarily wanna go too deep into
09:02,120	09:05,000	when it comes to spiritual stuff on here.
09:05,000	09:10,000	But having a dramatized version of spooky things,
09:10,000	09:18,760	it was more comforting to me than it was terrifying.
09:18,880	09:21,160	– Yeah, I think that’s what,
09:21,160	09:24,100	’cause the thing that stopped me a lot
09:24,100	09:28,360	from watching scary movies for a long time
09:28,360	09:32,200	was I hated the idea and the feeling
09:32,200	09:33,560	of not being able to go to sleep
09:33,560	09:34,800	because I would overthink.
09:34,800	09:35,640	– Yeah.
09:35,640	09:41,100	– And I don’t know, like something just switched in my head.
09:41,100	09:42,960	I don’t think about shit when I go to sleep now.
09:42,960	09:44,160	(ZDoggMD laughs)
09:44,160	09:47,680	I have watched a lot of messed up things.
09:47,680	09:48,520	– Yeah.
09:48,520	09:49,800	I don’t think about anything.
09:49,800	09:50,640	– No.
09:50,640	09:54,320	– And I just like, I watch stuff
09:54,320	09:58,560	and I get excited when things scare me.
09:58,560	10:00,600	It’s like, I’m not, it’s like a roller coaster.
10:00,600	10:02,000	I’m not in danger.
10:02,000	10:02,840	– Right.
10:02,840	10:05,520	– But I get the feeling of like, oh, oh my God.
10:05,520	10:08,880	– I mean, it’s a weird thing that human beings
10:08,880	10:10,280	are like thrill seekers.
10:10,280	10:11,120	– Yeah, yeah.
10:11,120	10:11,960	– I mean, there are animals that do it too.
10:11,960	10:12,780	– I never really was.
10:12,780	10:15,960	– But it’s so weird that we do that.
10:15,960	10:18,520	But I think the closest thing for me,
10:18,520	10:20,720	because horror movies don’t really get to me,
10:20,720	10:25,480	is when we’re watching the real dash cam footage.
10:25,480	10:26,320	– Oh yeah. – Or we’re watching
10:26,320	10:27,160	ring camera footage on YouTube.
10:27,160	10:28,960	– We like to go on.
10:28,960	10:30,880	– Those are the things that get me.
10:30,880	10:33,840	– We like to travel down those rabbit holes on YouTube.
10:33,840	10:34,680	– Because when I’m watching–
10:34,680	10:36,480	– Just to creep ourselves out.
10:36,480	10:39,600	– When I’m watching Freddie kill someone,
10:39,600	10:42,080	I’m like, I’ve had those dreams, it’s fine.
10:42,080	10:43,680	I always wake up. – Fuck you, raisin bitch.
10:43,680	10:44,520	– Right.
10:44,520	10:48,960	I mean, I’m along with some of just the weird stuff
10:48,960	10:51,500	that of my past and my traumas and everything.
10:51,500	10:54,400	I’ve always had issues with nightmares.
10:54,400	10:59,000	I’ve always had issues of getting stuck in dreams
10:59,000	11:01,240	for what feels like an eternity.
11:01,240	11:03,320	Like even though it’s really one night,
11:03,320	11:06,000	that’s the kind of stuff my brain
11:06,000	11:07,480	has always done to me anyway.
11:07,480	11:08,920	That doesn’t scare me.
11:08,920	11:12,120	A ring camera of somebody walking up to your front door
11:12,120	11:14,760	and messing with your camera while you’re asleep,
11:14,760	11:16,880	that is the kind of thing that can actually happen to me
11:16,880	11:20,120	in this house that we’re sitting in right now.
11:20,120	11:21,600	That is the shit that scares me.
11:21,600	11:22,440	– Yes.
11:22,440	11:24,600	Real life.
11:24,600	11:25,680	– People.
11:25,680	11:26,960	– Yeah.
11:26,960	11:29,000	People are the real monsters.
11:29,000	11:30,400	– Honestly.
11:30,400	11:32,040	Speaking of monsters.
11:32,040	11:33,400	– Yes.
11:33,400	11:35,720	Have any favorite monsters?
11:35,720	11:38,720	– I wanna know, what was your kind of like
11:38,720	11:42,040	trick or treat situation as a child?
11:42,040	11:43,840	Like, did you guys do a lot of trick-or-treating?
11:43,840	11:44,840	Were you–
11:44,840	11:47,960	– What I remember, ’cause my childhood
11:47,960	11:51,000	was a lot of traveling again.
11:51,000	11:54,840	There wasn’t like, go around the neighborhood
11:54,840	11:56,920	and do things.
11:56,920	11:58,480	– ‘Cause you were on like bases and stuff, right?
11:58,480	11:59,640	– Yeah.
11:59,640	12:00,800	– Or international.
12:00,800	12:05,400	– Yeah, we didn’t really do that a lot when I was a kid.
12:05,400	12:08,260	The first time I remember trick-or-treating,
12:08,260	12:11,040	I was already, I think I was like in middle school
12:11,040	12:14,600	or something and I was over,
12:14,600	12:18,800	I remember I just like followed my friends around
12:18,800	12:20,400	because they were like, oh, we gotta go
12:20,400	12:23,480	to like the rich neighborhood so they can give us
12:23,480	12:25,200	the good candy, yeah. – The good candy, yeah.
12:25,200	12:26,040	– And I was like, what?
12:26,040	12:28,320	Oh my God, is that a thing?
12:28,320	12:30,720	Like, and that wasn’t something I grew up with.
12:30,720	12:35,320	I started doing that more when my nephew,
12:35,320	12:40,320	when he was born, I remember I took him trick or treating.
12:40,600	12:42,600	He was Spider-Man.
12:42,600	12:45,800	His first year of being able to walk.
12:45,800	12:49,640	We got eaten by mosquitoes.
12:49,640	12:51,120	– Yeah, Florida. – Because Florida.
12:51,120	12:52,640	– Yeah.
12:52,640	12:56,360	Speaking of which, check out our Florida murder episode.
12:56,360	12:57,920	– Florida man episode.
12:57,920	12:59,200	– Still traumatized.
12:59,200	13:01,000	– What about you?
13:01,000	13:04,760	– I was very limited in what costumes I was allowed to have,
13:04,760	13:07,960	which I think initially kind of turned me off
13:07,960	13:11,860	from like trick-or-treating,
13:11,860	13:15,600	’cause I was only ever allowed to be aliens,
13:15,600	13:18,360	which is kind of ironic now with my love of aliens,
13:18,360	13:20,520	but it was the only costume I was allowed to have.
13:20,520	13:21,640	– What? – And I had it
13:21,640	13:23,080	like three years in a row,
13:23,080	13:24,960	like probably from like five to eight.
13:24,960	13:27,360	And it was always like, we would go buy a costume
13:27,360	13:31,600	because that’s American culture is to go buy a new thing,
13:31,600	13:32,640	but it would always be the same thing.
13:32,640	13:33,840	It would always be an alien.
13:33,840	13:35,560	It was the only, I wasn’t allowed to be like a demon.
13:35,560	13:37,000	I wasn’t allowed to be, you know,
13:37,000	13:38,760	anything like that would be evil.
13:38,760	13:39,880	It was just kind of like,
13:39,880	13:41,640	oh, I gotta be a fucking alien again.
13:41,640	13:44,760	– I feel like being an alien,
13:44,760	13:47,480	if you’re like super religious,
13:47,480	13:51,320	would be kind of a weird thing.
13:51,320	13:52,160	– Right, it’s very weird.
13:52,160	13:55,240	– Does God take care of the aliens too?
13:55,240	13:57,000	Does he hear their prayers?
13:57,000	13:59,160	– If you’re like super uber religious
13:59,160	14:00,600	and you believe in aliens,
14:00,600	14:03,940	you have to assume that their God is the same God as yours,
14:03,940	14:05,640	even if it’s just like in a different language.
14:05,640	14:10,640	– ‘Cause I’m thinking if you’re the type of,
14:10,640	14:12,420	this is just attacking Christians.
14:12,420	14:17,280	– It’s a pagan holiday, so we can attack them.
14:17,280	14:20,880	– Like not believing that the dinosaurs are real.
14:20,880	14:22,180	– Yeah.
14:22,180	14:24,240	– And also not believing in aliens
14:24,240	14:26,640	would seem like to go hand in hand.
14:26,640	14:28,920	– Yeah, well, I, yes.
14:28,920	14:31,920	– I was like, she would not believe in dinosaurs.
14:31,920	14:33,040	– I do.
14:33,040	14:35,480	Last thing, my mother isn’t like crazy religious.
14:35,480	14:38,400	Did some weird religious stuff happen to me?
14:38,400	14:42,440	Yes, but that’s because she was also affected.
14:42,440	14:43,280	You know what I mean?
14:43,280	14:46,000	I mean, that’s a generational thing where like,
14:46,000	14:49,720	you do onto your children what your parents did onto you.
14:49,720	14:52,240	– Yeah, generational trauma.
14:52,240	14:55,120	– Look, I just trauma dumped this entire episode
14:55,120	14:56,560	about my favorite holiday.
14:56,560	14:59,120	– That’s fine, yeah.
14:59,120	15:02,280	Look, sometimes that’s the way it is, get over it.
15:02,280	15:04,520	– But yeah, so I was never really into it.
15:04,520	15:05,920	– I just think that’s so funny
15:05,920	15:07,360	that you were only ever allowed to be an alien.
15:07,360	15:08,320	– I know.
15:08,320	15:09,600	And so then, you know,
15:09,600	15:11,520	so I just kind of wasn’t interested in doing it.
15:11,520	15:12,920	– You can’t even be a ghost.
15:12,920	15:14,320	(laughing)
15:14,320	15:15,240	– Like why can’t I be?
15:15,240	15:17,960	I guess because it’s like an undead afterlife kind of thing.
15:17,960	15:19,560	I don’t know the logic.
15:19,560	15:22,220	– I’m just, I’m trying to imagine, okay,
15:22,220	15:24,980	like you couldn’t be like a witch.
15:24,980	15:27,040	– Ironic.
15:27,040	15:29,640	– Yeah, you couldn’t be like, you know,
15:29,640	15:30,480	a wizard or a witch.
15:30,480	15:32,200	– Well, yeah, you couldn’t be anything evil.
15:32,200	15:33,520	– Oh, ’cause it would be.
15:33,520	15:36,600	it would be evil or it’d be like against God, I guess.
15:36,600	15:37,440	I don’t know.
15:37,440	15:41,360	But then eventually as I grew up and it, you know,
15:41,360	15:42,920	like eventually if I think for most people,
15:42,920	15:45,640	it turns into like, you’re going out with your friends,
15:45,640	15:47,280	like you’re no longer going with your parent
15:47,280	15:49,520	or your guardian, like you’re going out with your friends.
15:49,520	15:50,640	I didn’t have friends.
15:50,640	15:52,160	And then we moved around so much,
15:52,160	15:53,880	I never made friends in the neighborhood.
15:53,880	15:55,880	And if I did make friends in the neighborhood,
15:55,880	15:57,680	they weren’t allowed over.
15:57,680	15:58,640	So I would have to go, you know,
15:58,640	16:00,680	if I made friends in the neighborhood,
16:00,680	16:02,600	I would have to go over to their house.
16:02,600	16:05,160	And then it’s like, at some point I just thought,
16:05,160	16:09,660	and then at the same time I was enjoying having that moment
16:09,660	16:13,160	of being able to enjoy something with my mother.
16:13,160	16:14,000	You know what I mean?
16:14,000	16:16,200	So it was like, it just kind of like,
16:16,200	16:18,800	it’s never been a thing I cared about.
16:18,800	16:23,800	In our adult life, I’m very much like Jim from “The Office”.
16:23,800	16:27,800	Let me wear a T-shirt and say that’s my costume.
16:27,800	16:31,040	Like, you know, and I think it’s a comfort level thing too.
16:31,040	16:32,720	– Anyway, we did dress up for that one Halloween costume.
16:32,720	16:34,320	– We did do Sam and Dean.
16:34,320	16:35,160	– We did.
16:35,160	16:36,400	– From Supernatural.
16:36,400	16:41,280	That was probably the most of a costume I’ve ever made.
16:41,280	16:45,560	– That was the most effort I’ve put into a costume ever.
16:45,560	16:46,400	– Yeah.
16:46,400	16:50,720	I mean, we were going around trying to find everything
16:50,720	16:53,160	like pretty last minute, like the day before.
16:53,160	16:54,000	– Oh yeah.
16:54,000	16:55,840	We had most of the stuff.
16:55,840	16:56,680	– Yeah.
16:56,680	16:57,500	– We had most of it.
16:59,120	17:02,960	– I think it’s fair to say, as we’ve gotten older,
17:02,960	17:07,960	we are learning to enjoy Halloween the way we want to.
17:07,960	17:11,420	In school, there’s a lot of schools
17:11,420	17:13,500	that would let you dress up.
17:13,500	17:14,660	Our school did not.
17:14,660	17:15,760	– Really? – Yeah.
17:15,760	17:18,620	– My schools, as far as I know, always did.
17:18,620	17:20,420	– No. – Interesting.
17:20,420	17:23,100	– I don’t remember ever dressing up at school.
17:23,100	17:25,160	– You know, you’d have spirit days and stuff.
17:25,160	17:27,020	Did you guys ever do that?
17:27,020	17:29,840	– Maybe, but I was friends with all the rebel kids,
17:29,840	17:30,680	so maybe we just ignored it.
17:30,680	17:31,820	– You were alternative.
17:31,820	17:34,420	That’s cool, I was too.
17:34,420	17:36,460	– I was wearing boots and band shirts.
17:36,460	17:40,980	– I got a big part of my high school experience
17:40,980	17:44,300	was feeling like nobody actually valued me as a person.
17:44,300	17:46,640	So even people that I were like friends with,
17:46,640	17:49,120	it was like acquaintance, you know what I mean?
17:49,120	17:51,580	And a lot of that was because I couldn’t have people over.
17:51,580	17:52,660	How do you form friendships?
17:52,660	17:54,620	You can’t even spend time with them.
17:54,620	17:56,360	So it is what it is.
17:56,360	18:01,360	but I definitely was not participating in spirit days.
18:01,360	18:03,160	– Fuck spirit.
18:03,160	18:04,000	– Oh, I’m so sorry.
18:04,000	18:05,600	I shouldn’t be holding my nose.
18:05,600	18:06,800	The air is very dry.
18:06,800	18:08,480	– I like how I’m holding my nose.
18:08,480	18:09,320	– Stop.
18:09,320	18:11,560	(laughing)
18:11,560	18:14,480	The air is very dry.
18:14,480	18:15,560	– I know, I know.
18:15,560	18:16,400	We’ll turn the humidifier back on.
18:16,400	18:17,600	– Nose bleeds.
18:17,600	18:18,420	No, that’s fine.
18:18,420	18:19,260	– You know what?
18:19,260	18:20,160	That might be my least favorite thing
18:20,160	18:21,900	about this time of year.
18:21,900	18:23,760	I love fall in general.
18:23,760	18:24,600	– Love it.
18:24,600	18:25,480	– It’s my favorite season.
18:25,480	18:27,280	Beautiful colors, great suit.
18:27,280	18:29,040	– But my nose is ready to bleed.
18:29,040	18:29,880	– Oh yeah.
18:29,880	18:32,440	– At the drop of a hat, no matter what I do.
18:32,440	18:34,000	No matter how much I’m drinking water,
18:34,000	18:35,720	no matter how much I’m, you know,
18:35,720	18:37,840	as much hydrating, as much moisturizer.
18:37,840	18:40,440	– I’ve been saline spraying.
18:40,440	18:41,260	– Hello.
18:41,260	18:42,460	– Just every orifice.
18:42,460	18:45,680	– Yikes.
18:45,680	18:49,920	– I do what I have to do.
18:49,920	18:50,760	– That’s fair.
18:50,760	18:51,580	– To survive.
18:51,580	18:52,420	– No judgment.
18:52,420	18:53,440	– So, take that back.
18:53,440	18:55,760	(laughing)
18:55,760	18:57,400	– Yeah, it’s pretty fucking dry.
18:57,400	19:00,320	– Honestly, it’s disgusting.
19:00,320	19:01,960	But at least it’s pretty out.
19:01,960	19:03,400	– That’s yeah, very true.
19:03,400	19:05,760	– Starting to get a little cooler.
19:05,760	19:08,120	Not in here at this very moment.
19:08,120	19:09,520	– No.
19:09,520	19:11,440	– But that is our eternal struggle.
19:11,440	19:14,560	– I do this almost every year,
19:14,560	19:19,560	but I always end up wearing shorts towards like fall.
19:20,000	19:23,940	going from the warm to the cool.
19:23,940	19:26,620	And then suddenly I find all my shorts.
19:26,620	19:28,260	And I’m like, “Oh, I must expose
19:28,260	19:30,220	“all of my new leg tattoos.”
19:30,220	19:31,060	– Yeah.
19:31,060	19:32,680	– Now time to cover it all up.
19:32,680	19:33,940	– Aw.
19:33,940	19:38,940	You could get those like translucent, like plastic pants.
19:38,940	19:40,900	– What?
19:40,900	19:42,620	And just like squeak around everywhere?
19:42,620	19:43,460	– Uh-huh.
19:43,460	19:44,280	– Squeak, squeak.
19:44,280	19:45,120	– So people could see ’em,
19:45,120	19:46,420	but you’d still be protected from the elements.
19:46,420	19:50,900	– I’m imagining me wearing like that clear suit
19:50,900	19:51,860	from Hannibal.
19:51,860	19:54,580	– That could be your costume.
19:54,580	19:56,680	– Oh, I would love to be.
19:56,680	19:58,220	(laughing)
19:58,220	20:01,060	You know how fascinated I am with cannibals.
20:01,060	20:04,100	– I, speaking of not cannibals,
20:04,100	20:08,060	but speaking of a horror movie dress up.
20:08,060	20:10,700	We’re gonna make every rabbit hole work.
20:10,700	20:11,540	– Oh yeah.
20:11,540	20:15,900	– I remember before I’d gotten into the Chucky movies
20:15,900	20:17,980	as much as I have now.
20:17,980	20:19,980	I remember saying, I think it might’ve been Hot Topic,
20:19,980	20:24,500	somewhere had like sweaters,
20:24,500	20:28,080	like horror movie icon sweaters.
20:28,080	20:30,260	But they were like, I mean, they seemed online,
20:30,260	20:32,400	like they were an actual like knit.
20:32,400	20:34,860	Like it was, like, you know, like you go to like Party City
20:34,860	20:38,700	and it’s some $20 like printed, like T-shirt
20:38,700	20:40,900	that’s made to look like it’s a sweater.
20:40,900	20:43,180	This was like an actual sweater made out of like,
20:43,180	20:45,460	there was like a Chucky one and a Freddie one,
20:45,460	20:47,460	where it would have like the actual embellishments
20:47,460	20:49,060	actually knit.
20:49,060	20:51,620	And of course I didn’t buy one because I didn’t care.
20:51,620	20:56,620	If I could rock like a good guy sweater year round,
20:56,620	20:59,620	well, okay, season round.
20:59,620	21:03,020	We’re moving to Alaska year round.
21:03,020	21:03,980	– Yeah.
21:03,980	21:04,820	– I would.
21:04,820	21:07,100	I love Chucky that much.
21:07,100	21:08,460	I’m not afraid to say it.
21:08,460	21:10,300	He’s an icon.
21:10,300	21:12,540	– I have yet to see a single episode.
21:12,540	21:14,760	to see a single episode. – And now that I’m losing Ariel
21:14,760	21:17,580	to the woke agenda, okay,
21:17,580	21:19,600	I’m at least gonna stick Chucky.
21:19,600	21:21,540	– What the fuck?
21:21,540	21:26,220	You’re like, “There’s not enough gingers in this world.”
21:26,220	21:28,580	Is there a Hispanic horror icon?
21:28,580	21:30,820	– You.
21:30,820	21:33,340	– Thank you. – You’re welcome.
21:33,340	21:36,020	– Pretty sure no one’s buying shirts with me on it though.
21:36,020	21:37,100	I’d be a little offended.
21:37,100	21:38,300	I wanna punch myself.
21:38,300	21:40,380	I’m like, “Who would be?”
21:40,380	21:42,280	– There’s gotta be some Hispanic ones.
21:42,280	21:44,280	But they’re probably offensive.
21:44,280	21:48,120	For some reason my brain was like Zorro. I’m like he’s not a
21:48,120	21:51,480	He is an icon
21:51,480	21:56,160	Yeah, that’s a tough one I feel like there’s definitely some like
21:56,160	22:02,360	like final girls and some heroin, you know, like some like but I can’t think of I can’t think of any
22:02,360	22:09,040	Really? I do have representation good for you the new the new scream
22:09,040	22:11,560	spoilers to the new scream
22:11,560	22:14,980	Not the one coming out, but the one that just came out.
22:14,980	22:18,000	You might like that one.
22:18,000	22:19,840	– Okay, I like the screams.
22:19,840	22:24,960	We watched them when we went on that trip
22:24,960	22:25,800	to West Virginia, right?
22:25,800	22:27,560	– Funny way to phrase that.
22:27,560	22:28,900	I like the screams.
22:28,900	22:31,160	(laughing)
22:31,160	22:33,960	– Oh, is that so, murderer man?
22:33,960	22:36,200	Fuck you.
22:36,200	22:37,760	– Sir, what do you do?
22:37,760	22:38,800	– I like the screams.
22:38,800	22:39,640	(laughing)
22:39,640	22:40,460	– No.
22:40,460	22:45,460	– Oh, yeah, that had been the first time I watched those
22:45,460	22:47,580	since I was younger.
22:47,580	22:49,380	And I was like, wow, these are fun.
22:49,380	22:50,700	– Yeah, well, that’s the thing.
22:50,700	22:52,260	I think Chucky’s along the same line,
22:52,260	22:54,380	where it’s like– – Okay, I was terrified
22:54,380	22:57,020	of him as a kid. – Just fun enough
22:57,020	22:58,700	because it’s kind of ridiculous.
22:58,700	22:59,820	– Yes.
22:59,820	23:01,500	– And they’ve got the comedic,
23:01,500	23:03,180	like the one-liners and that kind of stuff.
23:03,180	23:06,100	But even some of the Chucky movies,
23:06,100	23:08,300	especially now that I’ve been watching them,
23:08,300	23:11,760	the first one and I would say Curse of Chucky.
23:11,760	23:14,160	Like, they’re definitely scary movies.
23:14,160	23:17,340	Like, they’re not, you know, there’s some of them
23:17,340	23:19,040	are definitely horror comedies,
23:19,040	23:20,680	but I wouldn’t consider every Chucky movie
23:20,680	23:23,420	like straight up comedy.
23:23,420	23:25,560	But it’s still fun enough because of it,
23:25,560	23:26,480	just how ridiculous it is.
23:26,480	23:28,320	And Scream is like that a lot too.
23:28,320	23:31,440	And same with the meta jokes and the one-liners
23:31,440	23:33,360	and that kind of stuff.
23:33,360	23:35,160	I tried to watch Friday the 13th,
23:35,160	23:37,800	which historically I’ve always been like,
23:37,800	23:40,400	– I like the aesthetic of a cabin slasher.
23:40,400	23:41,520	– Yeah.
23:41,520	23:44,880	– I just, I was like, forced dialogue,
23:44,880	23:47,760	no humor, nothing fun.
23:47,760	23:51,800	– There’s some old movies like that
23:51,800	23:56,800	that are charming in their badness.
23:56,800	23:59,880	– Yes, and their simplicity, their B-horror.
23:59,880	24:02,560	Like, that is not one of them.
24:02,560	24:03,400	I’ve gotta say.
24:03,400	24:05,280	– When I was in Florida, I had a friend
24:05,280	24:08,000	who like every Friday the 13th she’d come over
24:08,000	24:09,280	and we’d watch.
24:09,280	24:12,640	I remember the first time we watched the original one.
24:12,640	24:17,360	The remake, I actually really liked it.
24:17,360	24:18,960	– I think that might be my problem.
24:18,960	24:21,460	For some reason, I just never really watched them.
24:21,460	24:24,640	But like aesthetically, it’s always made sense.
24:24,640	24:26,800	Like, you know, like a cabin.
24:26,800	24:28,360	– Yeah, it was fun.
24:28,360	24:30,800	But also I think in the remake had Jared Padalecki
24:30,800	24:33,000	and I was just like, titties.
24:33,000	24:34,480	– The original one had Kevin Bacon
24:34,480	24:36,640	and I did not know that ahead of time.
24:36,640	24:37,480	– Really?
24:37,480	24:39,320	– Yeah, he’s like the like–
24:39,320	24:41,560	– Oh, he got the arrow through the–
24:41,560	24:42,400	– Yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:42,400	24:43,240	– Yeah.
24:43,240	24:45,160	– Yeah. – I remember.
24:45,160	24:46,720	(laughing)
24:46,720	24:50,520	I’m sorry, but the way you said that you didn’t know
24:50,520	24:52,480	Kevin Bacon was in there ahead of time,
24:52,480	24:56,560	like it would be triggering if you saw Kevin Bacon.
24:56,560	24:58,880	– Why was there no warning for this?
24:58,880	25:00,560	I’m so scared. – You didn’t hear it.
25:00,560	25:02,560	– I was like, oh shit.
25:02,560	25:03,400	My heart.
25:03,400	25:06,240	(laughing)
25:06,240	25:07,360	– Nobody told me.
25:07,360	25:12,520	– You’re like, ah, give it back, give it back.
25:12,520	25:14,720	Nobody told me this is a horror movie.
25:14,720	25:17,400	(laughing)
25:17,400	25:19,040	I loved it so much.
25:19,040	25:21,040	– It’s the longest of my life.
25:21,040	25:22,480	– I’m so sorry.
25:22,480	25:23,320	– Just being bullied.
25:23,320	25:24,140	– I know.
25:24,140	25:30,640	Yeah, some older, like, I mean, they’re not that old,
25:30,640	25:34,320	but my favorite older ones that I started watching
25:34,320	25:36,380	when I started getting into horror movies
25:36,380	25:40,640	is like the Blair Witch Project and Paranormal Activity.
25:40,640	25:43,600	They have a very early 2000s feel.
25:43,600	25:47,260	They’re movies from their era,
25:47,260	25:51,980	and they encompass that era, and they’re so good.
25:51,980	25:56,020	I could watch both of those movies over and over again.
25:56,020	25:56,860	I like them.
25:57,800	26:02,520	I definitely, I can handle found footage.
26:02,520	26:03,520	– You know I love found footage.
26:03,520	26:04,360	– I know you do.
26:04,360	26:08,240	I can handle it in like small bouts
26:08,240	26:12,280	where I can still see the narrative of the story.
26:12,280	26:14,120	There are some that we’ve watched,
26:14,120	26:16,060	I’ll watch whatever you want me to watch,
26:16,060	26:19,320	but sometimes I’m just like, there’s no story here.
26:19,320	26:21,320	– What about that Japanese one, remember?
26:21,320	26:22,160	– I said what I said.
26:22,160	26:23,440	– It was good.
26:23,440	26:25,920	– It came around at the end to actually have a point
26:25,920	26:27,120	and that I appreciate it.
26:27,120	26:28,460	– That’s spooky.
26:28,460	26:30,920	– It definitely is more of like an air.
26:30,920	26:33,080	– Is that the Naroi one?
26:33,080	26:33,920	– I think so, yeah, yeah, yeah.
26:33,920	26:34,740	– The curse?
26:34,740	26:35,720	It was the one that Vivi watched with us?
26:35,720	26:36,560	– Yeah.
26:36,560	26:38,640	That was just one where I just felt like the entire time
26:38,640	26:42,400	I was waiting for like a plot to pick up.
26:42,400	26:43,860	And it was really just like,
26:43,860	26:49,240	bad thing happen, bad thing happen.
26:49,240	26:50,540	Okay, movie over.
26:50,540	26:56,320	I don’t know, maybe it’s just not my aesthetic.
26:56,320	27:01,320	– I definitely appreciate the ambiance, the mood.
27:01,320	27:04,120	– I think that’s what I do like about that.
27:04,120	27:08,700	I like, I think, especially if,
27:08,700	27:10,800	obviously if it’s done right, I should say,
27:10,800	27:15,520	low budget found footage just feels like it works.
27:15,520	27:16,360	– Yeah.
27:16,360	27:17,180	– Because–
27:17,180	27:19,840	– I appreciate when found footage can be,
27:19,840	27:23,040	Creep is a great example of a found footage movie
27:23,040	27:24,220	that I love.
27:24,220	27:25,800	– Okay.
27:25,800	27:26,720	The second one, not so much.
27:26,720	27:28,880	The first one, one of my favorite movies.
27:28,880	27:32,440	– Second one felt very forced in its–
27:32,440	27:33,280	– They were trying.
27:33,280	27:34,100	– Yeah, yeah.
27:34,100	27:36,560	– Whereas the first one was like, here’s my vision,
27:36,560	27:39,880	and I’m making this, and it was an original concept.
27:39,880	27:44,880	You could kind of trace the narrative as it went along,
27:44,880	27:48,280	and kind of figure out what the beats were.
27:48,280	27:51,160	That’s the kind of stuff, and I’m more drawn to things
27:51,160	27:53,560	like “Home Invasion” thing, you know, movies,
27:53,560	27:54,920	like “Strangers” and stuff.
27:54,920	27:56,440	– Oh yes.
27:56,440	27:59,460	– I am irrationally in love with that genre.
27:59,460	28:05,000	And of course, then we go and talk about
28:05,000	28:08,360	how I’m terrified of the ring camera videos
28:08,360	28:10,160	because of things, because of home invasions.
28:10,160	28:12,880	– You can like something and be terrified of it.
28:12,880	28:13,720	That’s exactly what this is.
28:13,720	28:15,160	– And it’s probably why, you know.
28:15,160	28:16,720	Do they scare me?
28:16,720	28:19,280	No, no horror movie scares me.
28:19,280	28:20,120	– No.
28:20,120	28:22,540	– But do I kind of get the little like,
28:22,540	28:23,800	oh, what’s gonna happen?
28:23,800	28:25,800	– PT scared you.
28:25,800	28:28,360	– Yes, because I’m actively in it.
28:28,360	28:29,200	– Yes.
28:29,200	28:30,040	(laughing)
28:30,040	28:31,240	When we–
28:31,240	28:33,400	– There’s no telling what’s gonna happen.
28:33,400	28:35,960	– In, I’d like to transition to video games.
28:35,960	28:37,880	– Oh, we’ve transitioned.
28:37,880	28:39,400	– Okay, thank you.
28:39,400	28:42,360	Thank you, I’m a man.
28:42,360	28:44,620	(laughing)
28:44,620	28:49,720	When we played PT–
28:49,720	28:51,000	– Terrified.
28:51,000	28:52,320	– We were– – We did it.
28:52,320	28:54,420	Intoxicated. – In love
28:54,420	28:57,500	with being terrified. – Terrified.
28:57,500	29:01,220	And that was such a,
29:01,220	29:04,200	like, you know, again, like we said before,
29:04,200	29:09,060	I grew up with video games. – Yeah.
29:09,060	29:11,440	– And also scary video games. – Yeah.
29:11,440	29:14,140	– So, again, horror movies weren’t my thing.
29:14,140	29:16,500	Scary video games? – No.
29:16,500	29:18,960	– I could talk about them all day.
29:18,960	29:20,840	– What was the new Resident Evil?
29:20,840	29:23,920	So that’s the one that we had a demo for.
29:23,920	29:26,640	And I was just like, you just play this, I can’t do it.
29:26,640	29:29,320	– I love, that was Resident Evil Village.
29:29,320	29:31,920	– Yes, it just makes me so anxious.
29:31,920	29:36,040	Like not even fear, it’s like anxious.
29:36,040	29:38,080	– Yeah, well no, I was like.
29:38,080	29:39,400	– Although I was listening to a podcast
29:39,400	29:42,680	where they said anxiety and stress
29:42,680	29:45,320	are just like fear responses.
29:45,320	29:46,840	And it’s all the same emotion.
29:46,840	29:49,440	And I was like, shit, we literally go about the day
29:49,440	29:50,720	“Oh, I’m just like stressed.”
29:50,720	29:53,200	Like, no, you’re scared your life is gonna end
29:53,200	29:55,900	if you don’t like get that expense report done on time.
29:55,900	29:58,960	– I was gonna say, do I feel that at work?
29:58,960	29:59,800	I’m like, ah.
29:59,800	30:02,880	– Yeah, literally anxiety and fear is just fear.
30:02,880	30:05,960	– It’s a survival instinct.
30:05,960	30:08,000	– Yeah, and I literally two seconds ago
30:08,000	30:10,960	was trying to like, be like, “No, I’m not scared.
30:10,960	30:12,240	“I’m just anxious.”
30:12,240	30:13,680	Like, no, it’s the same fucking thing.
30:13,680	30:14,520	– Yeah.
30:14,520	30:15,360	– Why?
30:15,360	30:17,120	– Like you’re afraid something will happen to you.
30:17,120	30:18,920	– Right, like we separate them
30:18,920	30:20,040	as if they’re like different,
30:20,040	30:22,420	but they’re all the same base instincts.
30:22,420	30:23,520	– Yes. – Wild.
30:23,520	30:25,400	Human beings, we just make shit up.
30:25,400	30:26,480	(laughing)
30:26,480	30:27,640	– We feel what we feel.
30:27,640	30:31,980	God, scary video games,
30:31,980	30:37,320	probably one of my favorite is Dead Space.
30:37,320	30:40,080	Space and zombies.
30:40,080	30:45,080	– Let’s make sure for those who are not video gamers,
30:45,080	30:47,960	that we kind of describe some of what we’re talking about.
30:47,960	30:49,960	I feel like the movies we’ve mostly talked about,
30:49,960	30:52,480	like, other than “Creep”,
30:52,480	30:54,000	we’ve mostly talked about older ones.
30:54,000	30:55,120	If you don’t know what they are by now,
30:55,120	30:57,680	or at least the visual aesthetic of them,
30:57,680	30:59,840	you’re lost to me, I can’t help you.
30:59,840	31:01,960	But with the video games, I think it’s a much smaller market.
31:01,960	31:04,440	So “P.T.”, it’s a playable trailer
31:04,440	31:05,920	for the “Silent Hill” games.
31:05,920	31:10,920	– So Kojima made it as a teaser
31:10,920	31:16,360	to make a new “Silent Hill”.
31:16,860	31:21,340	What it ended up being was him saying bye to the company
31:21,340	31:25,120	he was working with, breaking away,
31:25,120	31:28,620	and we never got anything Silent Hill ever again.
31:28,620	31:30,180	– So depressing.
31:30,180	31:35,020	– But it birthed a lot of other games similar.
31:35,020	31:39,340	– Yeah, so the basic concept is you’re going,
31:39,340	31:41,940	you’re like first person walking down a hallway.
31:41,940	31:44,260	– The first person, which is new for Silent Hill,
31:44,260	31:46,740	it’s not really, it’s never been first person.
31:46,740	31:48,940	which is not anything I would know about
31:48,940	31:51,260	because of my aversion to horror gaming.
31:51,260	31:52,100	– That’s why I’m here.
31:52,100	31:54,900	– In the historic, it just works so well.
31:54,900	31:57,260	First person, you’re walking down this hallway,
31:57,260	31:58,820	creepy things happen.
31:58,820	32:00,580	You cycle through the same hallway several times.
32:00,580	32:02,020	It sounds very boring,
32:02,020	32:03,620	but it’s actually kind of terrifying
32:03,620	32:06,420	’cause every time you go through the cycle,
32:06,420	32:08,620	something different is bound to happen
32:08,620	32:09,460	or you have to do something in a certain–
32:09,460	32:11,220	– It’s a scary puzzle game.
32:11,220	32:12,060	– Exactly.
32:12,060	32:14,860	– And we had to…
32:15,900	32:17,500	– I mean, they’ve got you like whispering
32:17,500	32:19,900	into the microphones and like all sorts
32:19,900	32:21,220	of crazy stuff happening in that game.
32:21,220	32:25,020	– And little fetus in the sink.
32:25,020	32:26,660	– Fetuses in the sink.
32:26,660	32:30,540	You got dead people hanging out in the banisters.
32:30,540	32:37,580	– You know, a fridge full of blood
32:37,580	32:39,060	swinging from the ceiling.
32:39,060	32:41,260	– Just like, who comes up with these things?
32:41,260	32:44,460	– God, it was so good.
32:44,460	32:45,660	It was so good.
32:45,660	32:48,020	I don’t know anything about Dead Space.
32:48,020	32:53,020	– So Dead Space is about a guy named Isaac
32:53,020	32:54,320	who is an engineer.
32:54,320	33:00,180	He goes to this ship to go save/fix it
33:00,180	33:08,140	’cause this ship has been decommissioned.
33:08,140	33:10,620	Something happened to it, they don’t know.
33:10,620	33:14,660	It’s basically, it’s got like alien movie vibes.
33:14,660	33:16,220	So like something happened,
33:16,220	33:17,380	we’re gonna go there and check it out.
33:17,380	33:18,220	– Fair.
33:18,220	33:19,340	Alien Isolation.
33:19,340	33:20,180	– Yeah.
33:20,180	33:22,040	– That was a game that I just couldn’t play.
33:22,040	33:24,060	I was like, no, I don’t know what’s around that corner,
33:24,060	33:25,660	I’m not playing this.
33:25,660	33:28,500	– That’s actually one of the rare ones that I can’t watch.
33:28,500	33:29,420	(laughs)
33:29,420	33:31,220	‘Cause it’s like, it’s almost too stressful.
33:31,220	33:33,180	Because in that game,
33:33,180	33:36,460	even, you’re in danger even when you try and save.
33:36,460	33:38,060	– Yeah.
33:38,060	33:39,020	Just wild.
33:39,020	33:40,160	– She will stab you.
33:40,160	33:42,260	(laughs)
33:42,260	33:43,100	But in–
33:43,100	33:45,580	– Another movie that I love that entire series.
33:45,580	33:48,260	– My next tattoo is gonna be an alien tattoo.
33:48,260	33:49,380	– That’s adorable.
33:49,380	33:50,220	– Thank you.
33:50,220	33:51,780	Sierra’s gonna design it for me.
33:51,780	33:52,620	Shout out Sierra.
33:52,620	33:54,300	– Shout out Sierra.
33:54,300	33:55,140	– See you tomorrow.
33:55,140	33:57,380	(laughing)
33:57,380	34:01,980	So Dead Space.
34:01,980	34:05,380	I mention it and it’s one of my favorites
34:05,380	34:10,380	just because it’s one of the ones that I played myself.
34:13,020	34:17,300	The first and second one are the only two that I played.
34:17,300	34:21,420	But it was just very like, you’re this engineer
34:21,420	34:23,560	and you have this slicing weapon
34:23,560	34:27,020	and you have to go around and you have to slice off
34:27,020	34:31,220	these zombies’ arms and legs.
34:31,220	34:36,220	And everything is very just gross and horrible
34:36,220	34:39,440	and terrifying and there are so many,
34:39,440	34:41,740	it’s known for it’s like death scenes.
34:41,740	34:46,260	like how many ways your main character can die.
34:46,260	34:50,460	And I remember when I first saw one of my friends play it,
34:50,460	34:52,300	like way back when the first one came out,
34:52,300	34:53,700	I was horrified.
34:53,700	34:54,860	I had nightmares.
34:54,860	34:55,940	– Is it another one of these ones
34:55,940	34:57,740	where it’s like slower pacing,
34:57,740	34:59,020	like you don’t know what’s around the corner?
34:59,020	35:00,460	Like is it that kind of vibe?
35:00,460	35:06,220	– I don’t think I would call it like slow pace,
35:06,220	35:09,460	but there’s like, I don’t know,
35:09,460	35:11,780	– There’s probably so much I could say about it.
35:11,780	35:14,300	– There’s a lot of zombie things that I can handle.
35:14,300	35:16,280	Like The Last of Us, I can handle that.
35:16,280	35:19,880	And there’s zombie-esque creatures.
35:19,880	35:24,880	There are stalking, but the pace of it is so much higher.
35:24,880	35:27,740	– I would love for you to watch me play Dead Space.
35:27,740	35:29,880	– Yeah, we can make this happen.
35:29,880	35:31,900	We gotta become streamers at some point.
35:31,900	35:33,300	– We’re working on that too.
35:33,300	35:35,940	Anyway, it’s amazing.
35:36,900	35:41,140	Is there any horror games that you know of?
35:41,140	35:44,380	– The only ones that I really actively know of
35:44,380	35:46,240	are ones that we’ve either played together
35:46,240	35:48,700	or mentioned to each other.
35:48,700	35:52,900	– Silent Hill, the first and the second one
35:52,900	35:54,460	I played when I was younger.
35:54,460	35:55,300	– Yeah.
35:55,300	35:56,780	– Very scary.
35:56,780	35:57,620	– I know the vibe.
35:57,620	35:59,620	– Very poo-poo graphics.
35:59,620	36:00,780	– But that is another thing,
36:00,780	36:03,220	I wasn’t allowed to play those kind of games.
36:03,220	36:06,580	So when you don’t get into something in the 90s,
36:06,580	36:07,420	– Yeah.
36:07,420	36:11,020	– You don’t have a lot of options when you’re 20 or 30.
36:11,020	36:16,020	– Well, I had a, I have a stepbrother,
36:16,020	36:19,800	I have an older stepbrother, and I had a little sister,
36:19,800	36:23,020	and we would be, and my brother, my little brother,
36:23,020	36:26,360	we would hang out in the basement,
36:26,360	36:30,400	and my big brother and I would be playing
36:30,400	36:31,740	like all these horror games.
36:31,740	36:34,980	We played, that’s the first time I played
36:34,980	36:36,180	like a Resident Evil game.
36:36,180	36:38,540	We played Resident Evil 4 together.
36:38,540	36:42,300	And have you ever seen anything about Resident Evil 4?
36:42,300	36:47,300	So there’s these, it was such a,
36:47,300	36:49,980	it’s funny ’cause anything that I’ve seen now,
36:49,980	36:52,220	like somebody like, let’s go back and play it.
36:52,220	36:53,920	I’m like, this looks like poo poo.
36:53,920	37:00,500	There is this one part where you’re going down this hallway
37:00,500	37:03,580	and everything is really quiet.
37:03,580	37:05,660	The ambience was done so well.
37:05,660	37:09,620	And you have to, there’s like these zombies
37:09,620	37:11,260	that you have to kill by like shooting them
37:11,260	37:13,260	in certain areas to make sure they die.
37:13,260	37:15,780	So we thought we killed everyone in the area.
37:15,780	37:18,260	And so we’re going like back and forth in this hallway
37:18,260	37:20,180	to try and find out where we need to go.
37:20,180	37:21,660	– And this is the one where it’s like
37:21,660	37:23,340	at the odd angles and stuff, right?
37:23,340	37:24,180	Or is this past that?
37:24,180	37:25,940	– No, this one was like– – That was like the first two.
37:25,940	37:29,540	– Yeah, this one was, this was Resident Evil 4.
37:29,540	37:30,380	– Okay.
37:30,380	37:34,380	– And I remember like we were going to these random doors
37:34,380	37:36,780	to try and figure out like how to,
37:36,780	37:38,620	like what key are we missing or something.
37:38,620	37:41,020	And we kept on hearing a breathing sound.
37:41,020	37:42,140	Yeah, dude.
37:42,140	37:44,020	And we kept on, we literally like, I was like,
37:44,020	37:45,140	okay, well, let me try.
37:45,140	37:46,900	Like, let me try and go.
37:46,900	37:50,340	We were at a door and we’re facing the door.
37:50,340	37:51,600	And we’re like, okay, this is weird.
37:51,600	37:54,940	And we turn around, the thing is right behind us.
37:54,940	38:01,000	We, like I never screamed that loud in my life.
38:01,000	38:03,660	My parents were so pissed at us.
38:03,660	38:05,740	– No. – Shut the fuck up.
38:05,740	38:06,740	(laughing)
38:06,740	38:11,740	Like, that was the loudest I screamed at something.
38:11,740	38:15,420	Like, he paused it, he managed to pause it
38:15,420	38:17,800	and then throw the remote across the room.
38:17,800	38:22,660	And I was like, what the fuck was that?
38:22,660	38:25,660	And we were so scared to press play again.
38:25,660	38:29,460	And that was amazing, amazing.
38:29,460	38:31,740	– I’m about to drop– – I loved it.
38:31,740	38:34,940	I’m about to drop like the most philosophical thing
38:34,940	38:37,300	that I will ever say on this podcast right now.
38:37,300	38:41,380	Throughout this entire episode,
38:41,380	38:44,960	we have mentioned the power of fear
38:44,960	38:46,560	to bring people together.
38:46,560	38:50,180	– Oh my God, you’re so right.
38:50,180	38:55,180	– Friendships, siblings, mother and son,
38:55,180	39:01,580	like our fears are what bring us together as people.
39:01,580	39:08,400	people into communities. We were scared those dinosaurs were going to eat us. So we banded
39:08,400	39:18,920	together into communities around fire. I was like Jurassic Park. I’m not a scientist. I
39:18,920	39:27,460	was an alien for Halloween. I don’t know. No, you’re you’re exactly right. And when
39:27,460	39:30,340	And I think it was like when I was in high school,
39:30,340	39:32,460	it’s when Let’s Play started to become more of a thing.
39:32,460	39:35,160	And a lot of my friends and I would just like watch,
39:35,160	39:37,540	’cause there was a lot of games we didn’t have access to.
39:37,540	39:39,380	And I’m just like, I just wanna watch someone play it
39:39,380	39:41,060	’cause I wanna see what it’s like.
39:41,060	39:42,980	And it’s like watching a movie.
39:42,980	39:43,820	– Yeah.
39:43,820	39:46,500	– So yeah, that brought a lot of us together too.
39:46,500	39:47,340	So that’s a good point.
39:47,340	39:48,160	– Yeah.
39:48,160	39:49,900	Well, and it’s just interesting because even,
39:49,900	39:52,860	if you look at like Samhain,
39:52,860	39:57,860	Like the origins of Halloween are all about family.
39:57,860	40:00,620	You know, you’re setting out foods
40:00,620	40:02,400	and offerings to your ancestors.
40:02,400	40:06,860	You’re helping the people who have died in the past year
40:06,860	40:10,420	to move on to like the afterlife.
40:10,420	40:15,420	Like you’re putting out lanterns to ward off evil spirits
40:15,420	40:18,040	from getting your family like.
40:18,040	40:19,480	– Turnips.
40:19,480	40:21,180	– The history of humanity is fear.
40:22,260	40:24,300	and we celebrated on Halloween.
40:24,300	40:25,140	– Yeah.
40:25,140	40:27,300	– That’s so beautiful.
40:27,300	40:28,140	– I love that.
40:28,140	40:29,640	I love how he brought that home.
40:29,640	40:31,060	(laughing)
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40:47,540	40:50,280	forged out of many, many rewrites.
40:50,280	40:55,280	– Yeah, a lot of blood, sweat and tears went into that.
40:55,280	40:57,800	Here, just my tears.
40:57,800	41:03,760	– I am going to avoid saying what future projects
41:03,760	41:07,140	are going to be because inevitably I end up not making them
41:07,140	41:11,420	and then I’m like, have evidence of my failures.
41:11,420	41:13,840	So instead of doing that, I’m just gonna say,
41:13,840	41:16,640	expect things from us. – Thanks.
41:16,640	41:18,480	Yeah, that’s fair.
41:18,480	41:20,560	make sure to come back and hang out with us
41:20,560	41:21,760	because we appreciate it.
41:21,760	41:24,080	– Yes, we love talking.
41:24,080	41:27,440	And we love attention.
41:27,440	41:30,680	– Honestly, I’m just here for the attention.
41:30,680	41:31,520	– I thrive.
41:31,520	41:35,120	May will pay attention to me.
41:35,120	41:37,160	– All right, everyone, enjoy the rest
41:37,160	41:38,120	of your Halloween season.
41:38,120	41:41,240	We’ll be back next week talking about something.
41:41,240	41:43,440	– Something, it’ll be something.
41:43,440	41:45,320	– Something that can kill you.
41:45,320	41:46,160	– Love that.
41:46,160	41:47,960	– Something to fear. – Thank you.
41:47,960	41:48,960	Mm-hmm.
41:48,960	41:51,960	Next week on That Witch Doesn’t Kill You.
41:51,960	41:52,960	Okay, bye!
41:52,960	41:53,960	[laughs]
41:53,960	41:59,960	[music]
41:59,960	42:01,960	Okay, I like the screens.
42:01,960	42:04,540	(upbeat music)